I think I already stated I bought the truck in '06 from a non-Ford dealer.

I plan on driving this beast till it dies. But...::knock on wood:: if I did have any more motor problems I'm trading it in. I'd probably just trade to a dealer. I wouldn't want the hassle of selling privately. Either way I would provide the documentation of what's been done and the new motor details. I even have a photocopy of the make, part number of the glow plugs in now. But I'm hoping it lasts.

 

did u post piston top damage ? or are the heads still on

 

No I didn't get pics of piston damage. I'd think the installer shipped the core off by now. I'll ask him. He's looking at the truck now to see how's the motor is settling in for me.

Honestly I have had so many other more important things than this truck to worry and spent time on. Life sure can deal some hard blows! But family is precious and trucks come and go!
I have just started to dig into this because friends, family and people I've talked have encouraged me to. Maybe it's too late but it can't hurt.

 

Well with the core gone you won't have to deal with ford ,, they would have required that for any settlement if it was even deemed to be their fault ,IMHO
best just to move on

 

Yep that probably is the case. But still gone talk with them though. If anything it's a good lesson for all vehicle owners. Shy away from used, mid changed motors lol. Unless you are wrenching it yourself I suppose.

 

My opinion is the motor in your truck was replaced at some time with one (even the same MY) with one that had a updated piston bowl design. If this is the case no one would know this besides the engine builder, both designs can be interchanged, but is essential to know for plug length.

 

Possibly just the short block was replaced, keeping the original heads with longer glow plugs.

 

Definitely possible. But would the responsibility fall on the dealer to make sure they checked out things on a motor that could possibly have different combinations of parts? I would think so! I brought it to Ford dealer because it's their product and one would expect it to be in good hands. They should be fully aware that the part #s may need careful clarification.

I'm not talking about gaskets blowing and causes. But just discussing a wrong part installed.

Would the piston design or change be noticeable during a head gasket job?

Between the two head jobs I also had a lot of starting problems. It didn't matter if it was cold or hot. Sometimes the truck fired up (no struggle) sometimes it just was dead. I think I mentioned how the truck had poor mileage and ran louder after the first head job. They tested the FICM and batteries. Repair invoice mentioned FiCM sync failed. What's that?

Maybe they threw in some plugs laying around just to eliminate that from the no start equation. Maybe they couldn't get them out easily (bent) and said " Bah just leave them.". I know they have used parts lying around their shop to test components before. One repair invoice mentioned trying a different trucks part (can't remember what it as, tranny related I think).

I suppose an oasis report would show if the motor was replaced under warranty? Would the dealer ever look up a truck if parts didn't seem to make sense?

 

Just looking at the bowl design is very hard to distinguish the 2 piston types apart, would a mechanic see the difference, I doubt it very much. How many miles were on the truck when you bought it? It is still possible that under warranty a dealer replaced the original motor or short block.

 

Yes that very possible. It had 90,000 km on the odometer.

Are Oasis reports expensive? Maybe I should get one. Can't hurt.

 

I wonder what happens if one puts the short glowplugs in where the long ones should be? It should still start right??

 

You could get away with putting the short plugs in a 03 motor, but not putting long ones in a updated piston engine.

 

Well I will remember if i ever change glowplugs on a 6.0 ill just use short ones no matter what !

 

Maybe they should just make it like a cummins so they don't need glowplugs!