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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 04:05 PM
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Vref or Vbat

What do those terms mean? I have intermitend rough idle, code 2286.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 06:15 PM
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vref is 5v refrence voltage vbatt 12volt supply. b+ is battery voltage.

imo you have an 03/04 truck with a failed icp sensor and connector
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 06:20 PM
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VREF is a conditioned regulated constant 5v power source supplied by the PCM. VBAT is battery voltage, which can vary from 12 to 15 volts.

The purpose behind VREF is to give sensors a precise power input, so that you can reliably conclude that a certain output value is what it is. If the input were variable, like VBAT is, then the output wouldn't be reliable.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 06:24 PM
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OK, with the scangauge, how can I see if the Vref is good or not?
As I see, V bat is only battery power?
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kidoo
OK, with the scangauge, how can I see if the Vref is good or not?
As I see, V bat is only battery power?
Ok, now I'm interested in this. I have the Vref set up in my SC II.

VREF ("My notes indicate that this is the Calibration Voltage Input", comment by James )
TXD: 07E0221155 (cheezit, I think this would be the PID # 1155)
RXF: 046205110655
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000133330000
NAM: CVI

So, I'm curious if it is reading right. The Name on the Gauge is set as CVI for now. That is how it came to me. So, let's just call it that.

During my taping of the gauge, it kept reading 4. So, would this be a "good" reading if it is reading 4 all the time? I might have to ask for an update or a check involving this number. The Author of the gauge said above "My notes indicate that this is the Calibration Voltage Input"

Does that make sense?

Here is the video of the gauge, it appears at 1:14.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfePhk0d9zM
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 07:23 PM
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vref should read very close to 5v. something like 4.95v would be good.
 
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I will try the code tomorow and see what happens
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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I guess you just didn't like my answer (posted in your previous thread) to this question ..............
 
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Originally Posted by amdriven2liv
Ok, now I'm interested in this. I have the Vref set up in my SC II.

VREF ("My notes indicate that this is the Calibration Voltage Input", comment by James )
TXD: 07E0221155 (cheezit, I think this would be the PID # 1155)
RXF: 046205110655
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000133330000
NAM: CVI

So, I'm curious if it is reading right. The Name on the Gauge is set as CVI for now. That is how it came to me. So, let's just call it that.

During my taping of the gauge, it kept reading 4. So, would this be a "good" reading if it is reading 4 all the time? I might have to ask for an update or a check involving this number. The Author of the gauge said above "My notes indicate that this is the Calibration Voltage Input"

Does that make sense?

Here is the video of the gauge, it appears at 1:14.

YouTube - Scangauge II


I have been following with the scangauge as well
anyway I put in the x-gauge for the vref today and I got the exact same reading you did 4v
before I did it though I was expecting it to read 5v
I think this Xgauge needs to be changed a little if its possible
 
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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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Hi bismic, I am just trying to figure out my new scantoy, this question is more focused, i guess. I will try the code this PM.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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CVI is steady on 5. It did not move from it. I put in the following code

TXD: 07E0221155
RXF: 046205110655
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000133330000
NAM: CVI
 
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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 03:43 PM
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Kidoo, I was just coming back here to give the updated gauge codes!

For VREF, it should now read with extra decimal points to give a more accurate reading!

Here it is:

VREF
TXD: 07E0221155
RXF: 046245110655 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<This changed
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006433330000 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< This changed
NAM: CVI
 
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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 04:26 PM
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It worked, now reading 5.00, looks bang on.
 
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It worked, now reading 5.00, looks bang on.

Great to hear! Thanks for inputting the new code.

Gotta love verification!

Reps to you!
 
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