I have not come up on the first oil change yet. I was wondering if anyone is using the wix 57151. Don't want to start a war over the Wix vs. Motorcraft. Just wondered if anyone is using the Wix and particularly if you have had an oil analysis using that filter. Just trying to make an informed decision. Thanks to all...

 

Motorcraft FL2051 here (always).
On my third.

The general consensus is to stay with the OEM filters.
The wix 57151 appears to be a few dollars more than the motorcraft and you know Ford backs the motorcraft parts.

 

Thanks, I use Wix in all my other vehicles. When I buy I try to buy for all vehicles at once and same on shipping and sometimes get better unit price. I've used Wix for 40 years, just wondered if there was something about the Motorcraft that made it inherently better. Price is close to same, just curious. I guess it's like asking about motor oil preference, we all know how heated that discussion can get. Maybe that's why my Dad said NEVER talk about sex, religion, politics or motor oil!!!

 

I am using a billet aluminum Pure Power Filter - on my 6th oil change and it works incredible - (The amount of trash and particulates that is captured is amazing.) - We use it in our fleet as well as all of my personal conveyances including our track cars.

Web site is here is anyone is interested: Pure Power Oil Filters High Performance Motor Oil

Also FYI - there has been great debate on using this filter - Use search for a existing thread regarding this issue.

I have posted a mini picture review on this filter - check in my photo album...

 

There certainly has been. I still have to call that guy! Is he around on the weekends?

 

I know I'm blind in one eye and can't see out of the other, but I could not find a listing for a 6.7 Ford filter on the website.

I am skeptical of an oil filter that claims better mileage and horsepower. How? Please don't tell me because the oil is cleaner it is more slippery.

 

I doubt it most decent sized businesses are closed on weekends - wouldn't hurt to try but I would say Kelly wont be in until Monday.

 

I'm using the Am***l brand dual filters. About due for analysis. Have about 16K miles. Curious as to whether truck is diluting oil with fuel, like previous gen.
As far as I understand it, even a brand new conventional (stock) filter allows dirt particles of undesirable size to circulate and abrade the engine slowly over time. Regular oil changes are thus imperative, and yet over many miles there is still appreciable wear. And if you try and make the filter "better", then you reduce flow beyond acceptable minimums (cavitation).
The only solution IMO, is having multiple filters with different technologies/abilities, that are sequenced so that one allows full flow like the stock filter, while the other(s) have flow restrictors to achive an optimal flow rate back to the sump. Very curious to see the analysis report. First time with this exact setup.

 

sorry, but 'flow restrictors' means that it BYPASSes that filter, thus making it useless to have.. If you let the 'guck' (allows dirt particles of undesirable size to circulate and abrade) you complain about back into the system, then you haven't really achieved anything except adding parts. A 'most of the time' filter doesn't sounds like what I would want.

Sam

 

Oil analysis consistently shows that these systems work, whether or not one understands exactly how. Eliminating one or more filters will not increase filtration. The bypass function only kicks in to prevent cavitation, but under most circumstances simply works as another filter. Because of this, the second filter can be designed to remove much smaller particles, so they do not circulate for a long time. A conventional filtration system can not remove very small particles even when brand new. This limitation is a natural compromise with the needed flow, so the only way around it are these so-called bypass filters. Over-the-road trucks use a similar system, and have for many years, because it works and is financially justifiable.
The debate has never been whether these systems were viable, but whether the extra cost was justified. My 6.0L used a similar system, but not as good, and oil analysis consistently showed that oil was clean and still had the additive package it needed to do its job. Because it had a cheaper version of this system, I was only able to get 20 to 25K miles between drain intervals. But that was still a big improvement over stock. The good record keeping allowed me to maintain my warranty, as the regular analysis showed (in writing) whether the oil was appropriate for continued use.
Better filtration is not going to be more harmful, but is the extra cost worth it? And in my experience the extra cost turns out to actually be lower operating costs over time.

 

Bypass filters operate in parallel with the entire lubrication system, which includes the stock full-flow filter and all of the engine bearings (and this pressure drop). Bypass filters use internal flow restrictors to avoid having too much oil going through the bypass filter instead of the parallel path through the lube circuit.

When new, a bypass may see maybe 2 - 3% of the total flow available from the pump. This small amount is not needed for the engine. The bypass filter then "polishes" this oil.

The total flow rate with typical engines will "turn-over" the sump volume in less than one (1) minute. Therefore, the bypass filter will filter all of the oil in the lube system within 30 - 50 minutes of run time.

Typical full-flow filters only separate 70% of the particles above 20 microns. Abrasive wear occurs when the engine is exposed to particles above 5 microns. In some engineering circles, it is argued that most full-flow filters do a poor job of protecting the engine.

Good bypass filters remove >99% of particles > 5 microns.

 

Well that was explained a lot better than my feeble attempt. Thanks, Forest.

 

good hearing that ams*** has the set-up for the 6.7 psd. can you give me the dual oil filter set-up order number? my son has my 2000 4x4 psd 7.3 with the dual filter set-up that i ordered and drove for 5 years and 60k miles. now has 130k and still going strong.
went to an 05 long bed dually 6.0 4x4 and installed the one filter to make it a dual filter using the biggest filter available from ams***. trouble with turbo after the first year and after going back and forth with ford to repair it and after a total of 2 and 1/2 years and 34k miles and no luck, traded up to an 08 f-450 with the 6.4. my sad story continues. after the first year, again, the 6.4 started giving me trouble, this time the emissions system. some brilliant engineer decided to pour fuel into the engine in the exhaust cycle and hope most of it would go into the exhaust system to burn and clean the dpf. yeah right, most stayed in the engine and diluted the oil with fuel. it ruined my synthetic ams*** oil. i found this out with the oil sample i sent in. 10% the first time and 9.1% the second time with only 1800 miles on the oil. i stopped using the synthetic. again ford and i went back and forth. had the high pressure fuel pump replaced and spent over 50 days in the shop over the next 1 and 1/2 years trying to fix my problem. which was regenerating every time i turned around. and if that was not enough, i had to have it towed to the ford shop 3 different times that left me stranded. i was able to start it up 2 times. well i had enough and ford made me a deal i could live with one more time. after 2 and 1/2 years and 18k miles with the 08 f-450 4x4 i traded up to an 11 f-350 4x4 with the 6.7. i just made a round trip to los angeles and back. just over 2k miles and pulling my 13k dry weight 5er. everything went great with and average mpg of 9.7. am running 373 gears on a long bed dually. now i wait for my second year and see if this one will be the "keeper". as you can tell i am a diehard ford owner. ordered a 71 f-100, still have my highboy 76 f-250 4x4 with 4 speed and 390, bought a brand new areostar van in 1990. also had two escorts.

 

Marine57_4 here you go:

BMK-23 bypass kit (universal)
BK-300 engine spin-on adapter (1" x 16 new Ford thread is same as Cummins)
EaO-26 full flow filter
BE-110 bypass element
Deluxe Sampling valve G-1570 (about to install this item so I can get a clean sample)
API CJ-4 Synthetic 5W-40 Diesel Oil

And welcome to the forum. Ford makes a great truck, but sometimes one has a bit of bad luck, as you seem to have had. I had little trouble with my '06, and that generation was supposed to have more problems. Go figure...

I had started a thread on the bypass kit from Amsoil a few months back, so check out my installation pictures:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-pictures.html

 

Bypass filtration is not necessary when the primary filtration system is able to do it's job properly - the Pure Power filters can easily increase the oil change interval to match that of bypass filtration with less cost. Also if you feel it is necessary - Pure Power also has double and triple oil filtration setups with remote install - although it is not necessary in this application - it is available upon request.