E4OD swap question
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Thanks, when doing research and they say it won't I get confused. To my knowledge a 96 E4OD from an E series or F series with a 4.9-5.0-5.8 will fit a 95 4.9 as long as the with or without I.D matches correct?
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There's an ID on the trans like F5UP-AB for the 95, if my trans has that ID I have to use it otherwise I can use any. I'm not sure what it means but 96 also list a different ID.
When it list your choices it will always say with or without then the ID. This is only on the 4.9.
On a side note these are hard to find used in my area. I need to find one used and then get mine rebuilt.
When it list your choices it will always say with or without then the ID. This is only on the 4.9.
On a side note these are hard to find used in my area. I need to find one used and then get mine rebuilt.
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It's the transmission model number. For some reason on the 4.9 95-96 it's with or without F5UP-AB or F6UP-CA. Mine happens to be without and has the bottom type sticker.
I wish I could find these within a reasonable distance, but I should have known. I had problems almost exactly a year ago but it's been fine. Just started acting up so I pulled the pan and found what looks needle bearings.
Problem is I'm afraid to drive it 50 miles and can't get anyone with a truck anytime soon. It's still working just had a whine and jerked sometimes when starting off in drive or reverse. Last year it didn't downshift once, wouldn't catch in reverse once, changed fluid and has been okay till now.
Looked all over last year too, I hate dealing with some of these yards, they either have no clue or I can't trust them so I'm limited.
I wish I could find these within a reasonable distance, but I should have known. I had problems almost exactly a year ago but it's been fine. Just started acting up so I pulled the pan and found what looks needle bearings.
Problem is I'm afraid to drive it 50 miles and can't get anyone with a truck anytime soon. It's still working just had a whine and jerked sometimes when starting off in drive or reverse. Last year it didn't downshift once, wouldn't catch in reverse once, changed fluid and has been okay till now.
Looked all over last year too, I hate dealing with some of these yards, they either have no clue or I can't trust them so I'm limited.
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Maybe I should be asking "Will it worK?" Yes it fit's but a 96 into a 95 will not work properly due to a change in a friction plate and changes in the PCM calibration. For it to work you need a 96 PCM with the same motor and transmission out of the same type of vehicle you're installing in.
Glad I didn't buy a 96, just love misinformation.
Glad I didn't buy a 96, just love misinformation.
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I would have preferred a 96 but the PCM would have been a whole new venture, I had to drive 30 miles just to get a used 95 transmission mileage unknown at $615. The pickings are slim, I plan keeping my old one and doing a rebuild because of it.
I usually trust the info I get from forums and the hands on knowledge you find rather than dealers, etc.
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I say get it rebuilt and updated, that's far better than just swapping it out, BTW it's not just different PCM's, it usually has a different plug and shifter. I want a mechanical, non computer controlled OD trans to put in my 73 E-100.
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Ford would have 4 variants within the same year of the E4OD. I agree with Maples -- rebuild / update is the way to go. Ford improved the E4od every year, by '96 they had almost all kinks worked out. So yes, when you rebuild, you get updated internals.
That's half the story -- the other half is the TC matching. You may not get it right the first time.
That's half the story -- the other half is the TC matching. You may not get it right the first time.
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Maybe I should be asking "Will it worK?" Yes it fit's but a 96 into a 95 will not work properly due to a change in a friction plate and changes in the PCM calibration. For it to work you need a 96 PCM with the same motor and transmission out of the same type of vehicle you're installing in.
Glad I didn't buy a 96, just love misinformation.
Glad I didn't buy a 96, just love misinformation.
There are some after market thing you can do but I do not think there are any updates from Ford after 1995.
The plug change and the last updated parts inside was done for the 1995 E4OD.
The diode was also moved from the solenoid pack to the PCM Computer in 1995.
Here is a link about some updates on the E4OD:
An Introduction to the E4OD Transmission - Baumann Electronic Controls, LLC
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The E4OD had a big change from 1994 to 1995 but I do not ever recall reading anything Ford did to the E4OD after 1995. So I think the 1995 and 1996 E4OD are the same.
There are some after market thing you can do but I do not think there are any updates from Ford after 1995.
The plug change and the last updated parts inside was done for the 1995 E4OD.
The diode was also moved from the solenoid pack to the PCM Computer in 1995.
Here is a link about some updates on the E4OD:
An Introduction to the E4OD Transmission - Baumann Electronic Controls, LLC
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There are some after market thing you can do but I do not think there are any updates from Ford after 1995.
The plug change and the last updated parts inside was done for the 1995 E4OD.
The diode was also moved from the solenoid pack to the PCM Computer in 1995.
Here is a link about some updates on the E4OD:
An Introduction to the E4OD Transmission - Baumann Electronic Controls, LLC
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I think it's the reason why Hollander interchange says it won't work properly. Because of that change to the friction plate they changed the calibration to the PCM.
On the used trans I just bought the shift linkage plug is also different and it's from the same year (supposedly) problem with that is the sticker I.D. is completely worn off. So I'm hoping it is a 95 not a 96. The solenoid has a different part# only visual difference is part of the plug is metal where mine is plastic but the plug and solenoid otherwise are identical.
You would think that someone has gone through this 95/96 deal before but I couldn't find any info on at all.
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Nobody could really keep up with Ford's incremental improvements/changes, not only through the years, but even within the same year.
After 15-20 years dealing with this transmission, people have found that best-practice is to overhaul it, unless it was entirely crushed.
There is nauseating info (often-times conflicting) on the web about this transmission -- it still keeps many shops in business.
However, proper diagnosing and checks must be done first.
After 15-20 years dealing with this transmission, people have found that best-practice is to overhaul it, unless it was entirely crushed.
There is nauseating info (often-times conflicting) on the web about this transmission -- it still keeps many shops in business.
However, proper diagnosing and checks must be done first.