Auto Transmission Shifting Issues
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No offense, but just because someone says it's normal doesn't mean we have to believe it. I'm not buying that a few hundred RPM jump is normal. I've been driving trucks for over 30 years and have never had one do this. The flip side of this is...if someone can explain to me why this is normal and why some do it and some don't and how it's related to environment/climate then I'm ready to listen.
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From: herriman utah
so is there a TSB aka flash out for our trucks or not?? I haven't heard of anyone actually getting it and noone seems to have had a dealer pull up their truck and be able to find anything WTF!!!!
yesterday my truck while either in first or second gear seemed to have popped out of gear for a split second or maybe it was just an excessive hard shift. I am getting worried there are bigger problems. no way does this trans shift the same as when I bought the truck.
yesterday my truck while either in first or second gear seemed to have popped out of gear for a split second or maybe it was just an excessive hard shift. I am getting worried there are bigger problems. no way does this trans shift the same as when I bought the truck.
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From: Pflugerville, tx
so is there a TSB aka flash out for our trucks or not?? I haven't heard of anyone actually getting it and noone seems to have had a dealer pull up their truck and be able to find anything WTF!!!!
yesterday my truck while either in first or second gear seemed to have popped out of gear for a split second or maybe it was just an excessive hard shift. I am getting worried there are bigger problems. no way does this trans shift the same as when I bought the truck.
yesterday my truck while either in first or second gear seemed to have popped out of gear for a split second or maybe it was just an excessive hard shift. I am getting worried there are bigger problems. no way does this trans shift the same as when I bought the truck.
looks like they HAD one, but discovered last minute issues and pulled it back. so, should be soon to re-issue..
sam
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he went into a long explination on the whole climate thing affecting the 2nd to 3rd shift, and sense im not having those issues (yet) anyways i wasnt paying that much attention to that subject as i was to the issue i am actually having. i dont plan on just getting one dealers diagnostic, i just went to where i bought the truck for starters, i have a closer dealer to home that i will be going to next. the rpm jump i do remember having in my 03 f250, it did it since i bought it and the tranny never broke or had any other issue then the rpm change. he said these new trucks computer systems recognize after a period of time the way it is drivin and it adjusts to the driver. this is all new to me and maybe he is bs'in me i dk, but if this is true then maybe this is why some people are having issues and some arent
He then ran my VIN and it was up to date for TSB actions at this time. I emailed him the text posted here from the TSB. He was looking into it...must still be looking.
My servicing dealer is somewhat rare. They are a Lincoln dealer but have 3 talented diesel techs. They do more diesel work than the local Ford dealer. The only downside is that they do not have the 6.7 sales to drive the immediate need for 6.7 information. But...they make it all up with prompt and competent service when they work on my trucks.
As to your main question, it looks like the answer is no TSB at this time.
Regards
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I've been able to confirm that a calibration update is in the works. However, those of you experiencing the issue are going to need to be a bit more patient for a few more weeks. It's looking like mid-April before the durabililty testing and the emissions certifications that are a must before release are completed.
-Paul
-Paul
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From: Pflugerville, tx
Thanks Paul..
I want to say again how nice it is to have someone with access to the facts, and able to share with us.
Sam
I want to say again how nice it is to have someone with access to the facts, and able to share with us.
Sam
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So I read a post somewhere that disconnecting the battery for a period of time will reset the transmission learning process. If this is true, and most of us didn't have these issues for the first few months of driving, I wonder if it's worth a shot now?
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Thanx Paul,
Been hopin you'd show up on this topic. Wonder why this tranny is so problematic? Being away from FOMOCO for quite a few years, except for my 1990 Festiva, I haven't driven a Ford for a long time. Did the predecessors to the six speed behave this way? My last three p/u's have all been GM. Sorry! I'm back now tho.
I want to add, I bought an F-250 in 1978 and loved that truck so much I drove it for 21 years.
Been hopin you'd show up on this topic. Wonder why this tranny is so problematic? Being away from FOMOCO for quite a few years, except for my 1990 Festiva, I haven't driven a Ford for a long time. Did the predecessors to the six speed behave this way? My last three p/u's have all been GM. Sorry! I'm back now tho.
I want to add, I bought an F-250 in 1978 and loved that truck so much I drove it for 21 years.
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From: herriman utah
what if the issues are not fixed by a flash??? I think most of us especially me didn't have any issues with the transmission when the truck was new, what if its a mechanical issue?? I have my doubts a flash is going to fix the problem. I loved the way the truck drove when brand new now not as much.
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From: Pflugerville, tx
what if the issues are not fixed by a flash??? I think most of us especially me didn't have any issues with the transmission when the truck was new, what if its a mechanical issue?? I have my doubts a flash is going to fix the problem. I loved the way the truck drove when brand new now not as much.
and we've heard the discussion of manufacturing variability and tolerance.
just a few different things to take into consideration.
I personally don't think there IS a problem that CAN'T be solved. finding the right people to work on them may be a different issue.
what did you like about the truck as delivered compared to the current state?
Part of this problem will also be pleasing different customer sets.
Sam
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From: herriman utah
what did I love about the truck when I bought it?? the transmission was part of what I loved. I described it as seemless, it also seemed to be in the right gear, shifts were smooth almost as if the transmission operated in the background, which is a big compliment. now it seems to drop to, too low a gear when rolling around a turn, sometimes the shifts are harsh. the transmission seems to have popped out of gear on at least 2 occasions possibly 3.
along with this has came very incosistent throttle response. its either on or off all the way. I have actually unintentionally spun the tires with a trailer on the back.
along with this has came very incosistent throttle response. its either on or off all the way. I have actually unintentionally spun the tires with a trailer on the back.
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what did I love about the truck when I bought it?? the transmission was part of what I loved. I described it as seemless, it also seemed to be in the right gear, shifts were smooth almost as if the transmission operated in the background, which is a big compliment. now it seems to drop to, too low a gear when rolling around a turn, sometimes the shifts are harsh. the transmission seems to have popped out of gear on at least 2 occasions possibly 3.
along with this has came very incosistent throttle response. its either on or off all the way. I have actually unintentionally spun the tires with a trailer on the back.
along with this has came very incosistent throttle response. its either on or off all the way. I have actually unintentionally spun the tires with a trailer on the back.