Pure Power Lifetime Filter?
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Obviously you aren't a lawyer - And FYI - I am very familar with the Magnusson-Moss warranty act! are you using FORD oil? do you use FORD brand fuel? FORD cannot dictate which brand products, or oil filter to use UNLESS - and only unless they provide the filter for you - PURE POWER filters far out perform ANYTHING on the market - and as far a design specs go there is absolutely nothing that even comes close to the filtration that these units provide...
Ford does not require us to use Ford brand oil, they just specify that it has to bear the API CJ-4 rating and be of the proper grade specified. This is how they don't have to provide free oil. Now if one of us chooses to use oil not meeting their specs then they have the right to deny a warranty repair arising form damages from not using the proper oil.
I'm not trying to say that Pure Power makes a bad filter. I am trying to say that it was not made to the same specifications. This means use it at your own risk. I will continue to recommend against it for these trucks because of the complexity and high cost of these fuel systems. MC filters cost $50 for the pair and are guaranteed to protect your warranty. Always made sense to me.
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Just did some research on the Pure Power filter. Now I'm pretty convinced I wouldn't put one on my lawnmower if they made such a filter.
I read THIS ARTICLE, where the nonprofessional reviewer is just gushing about these filters. The problem is that he refers to his conversation with Kelly about what the Oil industry doesn't want you to know. Do you guys know that nobody should EVER use a 5w-XX engine oil? Did you know that Synthetic oils are bad for your engine and should never be used?
And what really rubbed me the wrong way about these filters is that nowhere did I find any SAE ASTM testing on how well they perform.
Can someone present something that adds some credibility to these filters? Some data, or maybe an impartial test? All I've seen is Kelly Tidwell talking about how his are the best and all others are scams.
I read THIS ARTICLE, where the nonprofessional reviewer is just gushing about these filters. The problem is that he refers to his conversation with Kelly about what the Oil industry doesn't want you to know. Do you guys know that nobody should EVER use a 5w-XX engine oil? Did you know that Synthetic oils are bad for your engine and should never be used?
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I asked him about my GMC’s manual advising me to use 5w30 oil. He chuckled and told me that there is no such thing as real 5 weight oil. They get 5 weight oil by diluting a 10 weight oil with solvents. He went on to tell me that every consumer vehicle should only use one of two grades: either 10w30 or 15w40 – PERIOD. 20w50 is too thick and too full of additives. 5 weight is too thin and full of solvents. He told me that the greater the distance between the first and second number of the oil grading, the more additives in the formula. This man had my attention.
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I asked him about synthetic oil. He laughed and told me that there is NO SUCH THING AS A TRUE SYNTHETIC OIL. He went on to tell me that synthetic oils are their way of stealing your money legally. It’s a game of, “How can we get the people to spend $6-$7 per quart? If there was a true 100% synthetic, it would be a lot more expensive. He went on to tell me NEVER use Synthetic oil. I laughed and told him I changed my oil the day prior with Mobil 1 synthetic. He told me that synthetic oils put plastics (polymers) in the formula. Under heated conditions, these plastics separate from the oil and attach to the metal in your engine. Synthetics are also highly acidic and that’s not good for your engine at all. He also informed me that Pennzoil sued Castrol because Castrol used to claim they made 100% synthetic oil. That was not true and look at Castrol’s Syntec oil label now. I asked him if there’s any truth to the myth that once you put synthetic in your motor, you can never switch back to conventional oil. He chuckled and told me that is totally false. It’s the oil companies perpetuating the lies to force you to continue to buy synthetics at $6-$7 a quart.
Can someone present something that adds some credibility to these filters? Some data, or maybe an impartial test? All I've seen is Kelly Tidwell talking about how his are the best and all others are scams.
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I am very familar with the "ACT" I have been on both sides of many cases re: the "ACT"
Nobody even comes close to these filters! - Do you think that the MotorCraft team uses MC brand filters on their own racing vehicles? NO!
Does FRAM uses their own brand of filters on their racing vehicles? NO!
Does FORD use their own brand of filters on their racing vehicles? NO!
Does Castrol, Budweiser, or anyone of the hundreds of other teams on the circuit use PAPER element filters? No.
Do you know what brand they do use? Yea that's right - Pure Power.
FRAM, and AMSOIL also tried to get Kelly to rebrand his filters for high volume sales, and even though the money was tempting - He didn't do it as rebranding without his name compromises his patent's too much.
Kelly's products are just far superior to anything else on the market. For both Oil, and Fuel - But to each his own, if you are comfortable with using paper filters that run in bypass all the time, no problem. But if you actually want to filter your oil - there is only one brand that says it all.
Kinda speaks for itself.
Nobody even comes close to these filters! - Do you think that the MotorCraft team uses MC brand filters on their own racing vehicles? NO!
Does FRAM uses their own brand of filters on their racing vehicles? NO!
Does FORD use their own brand of filters on their racing vehicles? NO!
Does Castrol, Budweiser, or anyone of the hundreds of other teams on the circuit use PAPER element filters? No.
Do you know what brand they do use? Yea that's right - Pure Power.
FRAM, and AMSOIL also tried to get Kelly to rebrand his filters for high volume sales, and even though the money was tempting - He didn't do it as rebranding without his name compromises his patent's too much.
Kelly's products are just far superior to anything else on the market. For both Oil, and Fuel - But to each his own, if you are comfortable with using paper filters that run in bypass all the time, no problem. But if you actually want to filter your oil - there is only one brand that says it all.
Kinda speaks for itself.
Tuned
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From: Shangri-La
Just did some research on the Pure Power filter. Now I'm pretty convinced I wouldn't put one on my lawnmower if they made such a filter.
I read THIS ARTICLE, where the nonprofessional reviewer is just gushing about these filters. The problem is that he refers to his conversation with Kelly about what the Oil industry doesn't want you to know. Do you guys know that nobody should EVER use a 5w-XX engine oil? Did you know that Synthetic oils are bad for your engine and should never be used?
And what really rubbed me the wrong way about these filters is that nowhere did I find any SAE ASTM testing on how well they perform.
Can someone present something that adds some credibility to these filters? Some data, or maybe an impartial test? All I've seen is Kelly Tidwell talking about how his are the best and all others are scams.
I read THIS ARTICLE, where the nonprofessional reviewer is just gushing about these filters. The problem is that he refers to his conversation with Kelly about what the Oil industry doesn't want you to know. Do you guys know that nobody should EVER use a 5w-XX engine oil? Did you know that Synthetic oils are bad for your engine and should never be used?
And what really rubbed me the wrong way about these filters is that nowhere did I find any SAE ASTM testing on how well they perform.
Can someone present something that adds some credibility to these filters? Some data, or maybe an impartial test? All I've seen is Kelly Tidwell talking about how his are the best and all others are scams.
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I am very familar with the "ACT" I have been on both sides of many cases re: the "ACT"
Nobody even comes close to these filters! - Do you think that the MotorCraft team uses MC brand filters on their own racing vehicles? NO!
Does FRAM uses their own brand of filters on their racing vehicles? NO!
Does FORD use their own brand of filters on their racing vehicles? NO!
Does Castrol, Budweiser, or anyone of the hundreds of other teams on the circuit use PAPER element filters? No.
Do you know what brand they do use? Yea that's right - Pure Power.
FRAM, and AMSOIL also tried to get Kelly to rebrand his filters for high volume sales, and even though the money was tempting - He didn't do it as rebranding without his name compromises his patent's too much.
Kelly's products are just far superior to anything else on the market. For both Oil, and Fuel - But to each his own, if you are comfortable with using paper filters that run in bypass all the time, no problem. But if you actually want to filter your oil - there is only one brand that says it all.
Kinda speaks for itself.
Nobody even comes close to these filters! - Do you think that the MotorCraft team uses MC brand filters on their own racing vehicles? NO!
Does FRAM uses their own brand of filters on their racing vehicles? NO!
Does FORD use their own brand of filters on their racing vehicles? NO!
Does Castrol, Budweiser, or anyone of the hundreds of other teams on the circuit use PAPER element filters? No.
Do you know what brand they do use? Yea that's right - Pure Power.
FRAM, and AMSOIL also tried to get Kelly to rebrand his filters for high volume sales, and even though the money was tempting - He didn't do it as rebranding without his name compromises his patent's too much.
Kelly's products are just far superior to anything else on the market. For both Oil, and Fuel - But to each his own, if you are comfortable with using paper filters that run in bypass all the time, no problem. But if you actually want to filter your oil - there is only one brand that says it all.
Kinda speaks for itself.
Tuned
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From: Shangri-La
When you have about an hour and are ready for an information overload that will address every concern or question that you can possibly imagine - Give Kelly Tidwell at Pure Power a call - He is a licensed Petroleum Engineer that has spent his life designing and manufacturing filtration, oil, and fuel systems. Nothing speaks louder than the cold hard facts - And if that is what you want - Call the source......
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When you have about an hour and are ready for an information overload that will address every concern or question that you can possibly imagine - Give Kelly Tidwell at Pure Power a call - He is a licensed Petroleum Engineer that has spent his life designing and manufacturing filtration, oil, and fuel systems. Nothing speaks louder than the cold hard facts - And if that is what you want - Call the source......
And one slick talking oil filter salesman is NOT a credible source considering how he's hardly impartial.
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Hate to say it, but some of what Kelly has told the author of that article I referenced was blatantly false. I'm not saying that his filter doesn't work, just that I have yet to find any credible sources that can affirm that they do.
And one slick talking oil filter salesman is NOT a credible source considering how he's hardly impartial.
And one slick talking oil filter salesman is NOT a credible source considering how he's hardly impartial.
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Okay, I'll do that. Probably won't be able to get to it today, but I will make a point to call him. I'll take notes and let you guys know how it goes.
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What do you mean by:
"...if you are comfortable with using paper filters that run in bypass all the time, no problem. But if you actually want to filter your oil - there is only one brand that says it all."
Are you saying that paper element fuel and oil filters clog quickly and force the fluids through a bypass valve?
"...if you are comfortable with using paper filters that run in bypass all the time, no problem. But if you actually want to filter your oil - there is only one brand that says it all."
Are you saying that paper element fuel and oil filters clog quickly and force the fluids through a bypass valve?
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I talked to Kelly twice yesterday (Have a race coming up) - Was just wondering if you had a chance to get some phone time in.
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Do you have a good number to call him other than what's listed on their website? If so, please PM it to me.
Thanks!
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If you look at my photo album I have completely disassembled the filter that is on my truck - It is very user friendly and easy to take care of - Additionally you can see how much gunk and trash builds up in your engine.
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