Pilot Bearing or bushing???
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Pilot Bearing or bushing???
I ordered my new clutch yesterday. The SB 450 HP one...That puppy set me back about a grand.My wife and I just had the ''It would be cheaper to buy a new truck arguement!! .Anyway, it comes with the Kevlar pilot bushing and I've read not so great things about those so I was going to go with the ''repair'' bearing from Dieselsite but he doesn't sell them anymore. So what should I do? Go with the Kevlar bushing or a stock bearing? OR does anyone know where I can get the same kit that Bob used to sell. As always, many thanks!
Duncan
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I spoke with him earlier this evening and he said that the kit is available from any transmission supply house. I have yet to find it.
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What have read/heard about the Kevlar bushing, I was looking at using one in stroker motor/6spd set up in one of my mustangs and heard it was better than a bearing. Sorry for the hijack.
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I ws planning on getting a setup from Bob for the next overhaul scheduled at 325k to 350k miles. Would like to see a source for what Bob sold.
Here's my old and new. Old one had over a hundred thousand on it.
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I dunno if what Brian gave me has been longevity tested - but it has hardened races and sealed ball bearings and is cheeeeeep.
I think best 'known' solution is machine flywheel for 6.0 pilot. I think thats what MW Transmission recommends...
Ultimately, input bearing wear and damage to input shaft from failed POS stock pilot create irreversable damage. I think the kevlar is better than stock, at least it fails slowly - stock is 100% or FUBAR.
I think best 'known' solution is machine flywheel for 6.0 pilot. I think thats what MW Transmission recommends...
Ultimately, input bearing wear and damage to input shaft from failed POS stock pilot create irreversable damage. I think the kevlar is better than stock, at least it fails slowly - stock is 100% or FUBAR.
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I've read not so great things about the kevlar bushings...
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I dunno if what Brian gave me has been longevity tested - but it has hardened races and sealed ball bearings and is cheeeeeep.
I think best 'known' solution is machine flywheel for 6.0 pilot. I think thats what MW Transmission recommends...
Ultimately, input bearing wear and damage to input shaft from failed POS stock pilot create irreversable damage. I think the kevlar is better than stock, at least it fails slowly - stock is 100% or FUBAR.
I think best 'known' solution is machine flywheel for 6.0 pilot. I think thats what MW Transmission recommends...
Ultimately, input bearing wear and damage to input shaft from failed POS stock pilot create irreversable damage. I think the kevlar is better than stock, at least it fails slowly - stock is 100% or FUBAR.
My new clutch arrived today...The kevlar bushing is already installed.
Is it possible to install the 6.0 bushing on our input shaft? I have access to a machine shop....(my new part time job) Will the input shaft need to be bushed? Or is it the same size between the 6.0 and 7.3.
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PILOT BEARING REPAIR KIT ZF FORD 6.9 & 7.3 DIESEL - eBay (item 170587556064 end time Mar-07-11 16:36:33 PST)
I found this....But my question above still stands
I found this....But my question above still stands
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My new clutch arrived today...The kevlar bushing is already installed.
Is it possible to install the 6.0 bushing on our input shaft? I have access to a machine shop....(my new part time job) Will the input shaft need to be bushed? Or is it the same size between the 6.0 and 7.3.
Is it possible to install the 6.0 bushing on our input shaft? I have access to a machine shop....(my new part time job) Will the input shaft need to be bushed? Or is it the same size between the 6.0 and 7.3.
I'm not a fan of the kevlar set up, I only got about 50K out of mine.
Jason posted a pic of one, is that the BTS pilot bearing for the 7.3? if so it looks alot like the 6.0 set up I have now. if it fits, I'd go that way. too bad Bob's not offering the repair kit anymore. i alwys liked that set up for a cheep fix.
Just looked at the link you posted. looks very similar to the one Bob used to have. I did notice it had a seal around where the input goes into the needle bearing. that in itself would be a improvement
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the 7.3 pilot is 5/8 in, the 6.0 is 1 in.
I'm not a fan of the kevlar set up, I only got about 50K out of mine.
Jason posted a pic of one, is that the BTS pilot bearing for the 7.3? if so it looks alot like the 6.0 set up I have now. if it fits, I'd go that way. too bad Bob's not offering the repair kit anymore. i alwys liked that set up for a cheep fix.
Just looked at the link you posted. looks very similar to the one Bob used to have. I did notice it had a seal around where the input goes into the needle bearing. that in itself would be a improvement
Barney
I'm not a fan of the kevlar set up, I only got about 50K out of mine.
Jason posted a pic of one, is that the BTS pilot bearing for the 7.3? if so it looks alot like the 6.0 set up I have now. if it fits, I'd go that way. too bad Bob's not offering the repair kit anymore. i alwys liked that set up for a cheep fix.
Just looked at the link you posted. looks very similar to the one Bob used to have. I did notice it had a seal around where the input goes into the needle bearing. that in itself would be a improvement
Barney
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Barney, was that 50k on your new or old trans? I'm convinced a loose input shaft bearing is the reason for pilot bearing failures.