True Ford Disc brake conversion?
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True Ford Disc brake conversion?
Does anyone know if there are any disc brake conversion kits that use ford brake parts? No offense to the dark side guys but for me a ford needs to remain a ford
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Most brake parts are made by companies other than the car or truck manufacturer anyway like Bendix, Wagner, Delco (altough, I suppose Delco is a subsidiary of GM), etc., so what difference does it make?
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I don't know if this is what the OP is thinking, but for me, it would be nice to be able to pull a part from a newer Ford to upgrade an older Ford, regardless of who the part manufacturer is. In the case of brakes, sure a caliper supplier will make a part for Ford, Chevy, Dodge, etc, but the configuration/bolt pattern and the like are often different, so in that sense, the parts are make specific.
I think the opposite is true for European cars, where you can swap many parts between makes such as Porsche, Audi, and VW - and find the parts for an older Porsche a lot cheaper by looking at VW parts.
In upgrading, I usually think make specific, and if that doesn't work, I don't have a problem going to other makes to accomplish the upgrade (though I have a problem with putting a Toyota steering box on my Ford...
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I think the opposite is true for European cars, where you can swap many parts between makes such as Porsche, Audi, and VW - and find the parts for an older Porsche a lot cheaper by looking at VW parts.
In upgrading, I usually think make specific, and if that doesn't work, I don't have a problem going to other makes to accomplish the upgrade (though I have a problem with putting a Toyota steering box on my Ford...
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I agree with ewalt, I will be watching this. I thought maybe you could use something off a twin I beam, but upon further inspection the caliper brackets appear to be part of the spindle.
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You want something that is not a GM caliper and disk correct? I think the issue is most of what we see for upgrades and even swaps are done with and for GM parts. I for instance can find a complete package to put an LS1 into my truck but be damned to find one for an actual 4.6 or 5.4 FORD engine. Good Luck. and yeah the Built Ford Tuff with Chevy Stuff is no good for me either
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I don't believe that there is a direct swap of Ford parts - bearings, hubs, disk, calipers etc - that will fit the spindles in the 48-60 era - I've been looking for at least 10 years and haven't seen anything.
It seems a little excessive for something thats not a true restoration.
It seems a little excessive for something thats not a true restoration.
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The problem with using Ford calipers is the design of the mounting isn't swap freindly. They're large and bulky, and in many older applications it's part of the spindle which can't be used.
GM calipers are used by the aftermarket because of the ease and simplicity of the attachment. And they work good. They can be adapted by means of a simple bracket bolted to the spindle.
My understanding is the 5 on 5 1/2 rotors used in the straight axle conversion are Ford truck parts from the 70's.
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I don't believe that there is a direct swap of Ford parts - bearings, hubs, disk, calipers etc - that will fit the spindles in the 48-60 era - I've been looking for at least 10 years and haven't seen anything.
It seems a little excessive for something thats not a true restoration.
It seems a little excessive for something thats not a true restoration.
A 5.4l swap would be awesome btw, but you're right all the mounting kits are for chebys, at least 90% of the ones i've seen are for bowties. Lame...
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Here is a place to check for Ford rotors for f-1 and f100's
http://www.magnumaxle.net/MagnumAxelCatalogWeb.pdf
http://www.magnumaxle.net/MagnumAxelCatalogWeb.pdf
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There use to be a kit that used 60's Mustang calipers but I haven't seen them for a while.
Before I decided to go 4x4 on my truck I was going to adapt a pair of Late model Mustang Cobra PBR aluminum dual piston calipers. It takes fabricating a new caliper adapter mounting bracket though.
I feel the same as the OP. For the back brakes on my project I want to use all Ford parts. All the aftermarket kits use a cheap gm or caddy caliper. So I'm adapting the set up off a 99 E350 Ford van. It requires welding new mounting flanges on the rear diff but it's worth it.
Before I decided to go 4x4 on my truck I was going to adapt a pair of Late model Mustang Cobra PBR aluminum dual piston calipers. It takes fabricating a new caliper adapter mounting bracket though.
I feel the same as the OP. For the back brakes on my project I want to use all Ford parts. All the aftermarket kits use a cheap gm or caddy caliper. So I'm adapting the set up off a 99 E350 Ford van. It requires welding new mounting flanges on the rear diff but it's worth it.
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I respect all of your opinions but ultimately its my truck to build to my personal taste. I would never criticize someone for wanting to use a Chevy drive train or a jag front end even though I would never consider such swaps. In my eyes like Mervy and others have said my preference to keep my ford, ford.