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i have a 05 6.0 with 65000 miles on it and i have been noticing white smoke puffing out every now and then it does it when i am idling for a while and once i get goin it stops and i have read several post about egr or egr cooler failure so i think thats what it is but i recently bought a programmer and now i am gonna have to take it to the stealer ship how do i make sure that wont void my warranty with me have this programmer in my truck i put it back to stock but i know they will hook it up to there computer so what do i have to do so it dont show that i had a programmer on it please help and thank you very much
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Do you see the white smoke when the engine is fully warmed up or just when it is cold? Do the outside temperatures make a difference? Do you have gauges and if so, what is the difference between your oil temperature and water temperature while driving normally with the engine warmed up? And are you losing any coolant?
I ask these because water vapor out the exhaust is normal in certain conditions, usually in cold weather while the engine warms up. You don't want to go fixing something that isn't broken.
I ask these because water vapor out the exhaust is normal in certain conditions, usually in cold weather while the engine warms up. You don't want to go fixing something that isn't broken.
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oh and no outside temps dont affect it but , what i was really needing to know was how to make sure ford doesnt find out i had a programmer on it so they wont void warranty i have read that u can disconnect batteries and turn the lights on and it will drain the computer and kill the KAM is this true or am i gonna get stuck with high dollar repair bill ,i hope not
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If Ford has a way to detect the use of a programmer, and I don't know if they do, then I doubt there is anything you can do to hide it. About the only thing would be to drive it enough after returning it to stock to make sure the OBD-II readiness tests are completed. The only way to know if you've succeeded at this is to look for a code P1000. If it's there, the tests aren't complete and the Ford tech is going to know you've recently flashed the PCM, of had the batteries disconnected.
Frankly, if you've run a programmer, man up and deal with it. You play, you pay. Many Ford techs will not say anything about a programmer unless the programmer caused the problem. And that is unlikely with an EGR cooler. But it can depend a lot on the dealership and the service writer.
Frankly, if you've run a programmer, man up and deal with it. You play, you pay. Many Ford techs will not say anything about a programmer unless the programmer caused the problem. And that is unlikely with an EGR cooler. But it can depend a lot on the dealership and the service writer.
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yeah thats why i think i am gonna just return the programmer and leave it stock the extra power it gave it was awesome but the strain of a programmer is more than the 6.0 can bear
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but i knew better than buy a bully dog programmer i think if i do buy another one it will be a SCT i have talked to alot of 6.0 owners and thats the one alot of them use but i really dont know
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most dealerships wont detect a programmer. my machanic has been in diesel business for over 30 years and he only knows of one guy within a 100 mile radius of him that works at a dealership that can detect a programmer has been on. just set it to stock drive it in and 99% of the time you will be fine. but there is always the chance that you could get the one guy that actually knows what he is doing with the computer stuff. but if its for the egr cooler most of the time they will just check in those areas and not really get into the pcm if that makes since. if it were me i wouldnt worry to much about it.
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What ever happened to returning it to the stock setting, disconnecting all the battery cables and shorting them to each other, turning on the headlights and the ignition for 20 minutes. Then re-connecting everything and the only the only code the mechanic will see is the no or low voltage code. Then just tell him you disconnected the batteries to reset the computer to see if that would fix it. I am glad that I dont have that problem. My mechanic loves my tuner.
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What ever happened to returning it to the stock setting, disconnecting all the battery cables and shorting them to each other, turning on the headlights and the ignition for 20 minutes. Then re-connecting everything and the only the only code the mechanic will see is the no or low voltage code.
. I was just wondering if it will erase everything like stated in another thread?
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I think what happens is that people mistake the fact that there tuner when used as a code reader no longer picks up a certain code and they therefore, think that it's cleared.
Not always true.
There are some codes that will not show up any more on the SCT, but still do on the DashDAQ and/or AE if it hasn't truly been cleared from the memory.