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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Franko72
Are you sure its not a combination of the big tires and those 3.73 gears.
I know this is an apples to oranges comparison, but I swapped a 2.41 rear end under a Trans am that had a 3.23, and the car couldn't get out of its own way. It felt like I lost half the power, and it felt like It was starting off in second gear. (ran great on the highway though...)
Just a thought...
I don't think so, Frank... I've got 315's (34.6" according to BFG) along with my 3.73's and I can do a 0-60 in 10 seconds stock with 302K on the clock. Something is seriously wrong here... I also got just under 17MPG's this summer doing mixed driving. I'm still trying to figure out where my MPG's have gone this winter... I haven't seen better than 13MPG's. Could be because I idle alot to warm the truck up... been trying to keep my idle time down just to see if that's where my fuel is going. I suspect my hubs and brakes aren't helping... got a bad hub and a sticking caliper. I'd love to see some AE data...

Oh, and is that "romp romp" kinda like a "surging" sound as the RPM's get up there? Like, when I'm in 3rd getting close to 70MPH because I nailed it, I notice there'll be a slight fluctuation in the sound, kinda like when you've got two sounds really close in pitch and they make a fluctuation or vibrating sound, if that makes sense. Could that be a fluttering IPR? I make good pressure and the duty cycle is still low... I can get 2700PSI as 38% Duty Cycle. I'm thinking MAYBE a solenoid pack... when I ohm it out, what should I see?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by bulla
37% duty cycle and 2800psi on stock. With the chip on 98% duty cycle and 1700psi.
Ouch! Now that's bad... the thing is, I would think you'd have bad numbers stock if it was really bad. I really wonder if it isn't injector O-rings. Any of y'all agree or am I missing something?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bulla
37% duty cycle and 2800psi on stock. With the chip on 98% duty cycle and 1700psi.
Wow. Im not sure i buy its all tuning. Its definitely asking for more oil than HPOP can supply, but where is it going?

Seems like if it wad leaking/bypassing it wouldn't do 2800psi.

Have you checked for a loose nut between steering wheel and accelerator pedal? Lol.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
Wow. Im not sure i buy its all tuning. Its definitely asking for more oil than HPOP can supply, but where is it going?

Seems like if it wad leaking/bypassing it wouldn't do 2800psi.

Have you checked for a loose nut between steering wheel and accelerator pedal? Lol.
HAHA!!! He's got a 17* pump so if he's making the same numbers as mine (I have a 15* pump) in stock and then it drops off the map when he puts on tune on it (with Superchips, I had only 1700PSI at 60-ish%), I could see how he might have a slow-leaking O-ring. His pump can probably make up for it in stock, but it looses it with a tune. Sound right? I mean, it's worth a shot... $50 beats $500 if it works out. That's what I did with my IPR... $30 of O-rings beats $200 for a new IPR. But I was talking to Clay and he said HPOP failure on these trucks is rare... I have to agree because like I said, I've got 302K on the clock and for a 15*, it's still pretty slick.

Hey, get with Joey at Terminator Engineering... he helped me out with mine!
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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Bulla, I'm pretty sure you probably already know about and have done it, but have you checked and cleaned out your back pressure sensor and tube?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:17 AM
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Oh yea clean and reading good. This truck has been a dog since the day I bought it with 105,000 on it. It now has 126,000. Buzz test and contrabution test always are good. I've thought about the o rings but I thought I'd have a better indication that that is the prob.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:20 AM
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Oh yea clean and reading good. This truck has been a dog since the day I bought it with 105,000 on it. It now has 126,000. Buzz test and contrabution test always are good. I've thought about the o rings but I thought I'd have a better indication that that is the prob.
Well, like I said, it's worth a shot IMO... beats a new HPOP. Buzz and Contribution are too vague... you could still have a slightly off injector and it won't be bad enough to fail CCT. What're your rotational velocity readings for all the injectors?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:23 AM
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I'm pulling 20,000 lbs gross right now with a 3/4 ton 7.3 '01 and you know it's back there but man it pulls like a freight train. Yesterday just the truck and trailer weigh 11,500 lbs and from 0-80 it took 33sec. My truck takes 34 sec to get to 80 empty. Urgh!
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bulla
I'm pulling 20,000 lbs gross right now with a 3/4 ton 7.3 '01 and you know it's back there but man it pulls like a freight train. Yesterday just the truck and trailer weigh 11,500 lbs and from 0-80 it took 33sec. My truck takes 34 sec to get to 80 empty. Urgh!
Ouch! You seriously need to try some O-rings, or at least get some rotational velocity numbers. It's be an awesome $50 anyways!
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:32 AM
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I can hit Rick up and post up what we find. Oh Rick are you busy tonight? And sorry frank!
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:41 AM
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HI could see how he might have a slow-leaking O-ring. His pump can probably make up for it in stock, but it looses it with a tune. Sound right? I mean, it's worth a shot... $50 beats $500 if it works out. That's what I did with my IPR... $30 of O-rings beats $200 for a new IPR. But I was talking to Clay and he said HPOP failure on these trucks is rare... I
Plausible. I know David's been trying to figure this out for awhile...
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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Has that ever worked. I ask cause I thought there were signs that lead to bad o rings like oil in fuel or fuel in coolant. I'm definatley willing to give this a shot just curious what my chances are for a fix!
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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Has that ever worked. I ask cause I thought there were signs that lead to bad o rings like oil in fuel or fuel in coolant. I'm definatley willing to give this a shot just curious what my chances are for a fix!
If it comes out of the top of the injectors under the valve covers, it drains right back down into the pan again... I think.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 11:59 AM
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Well I'm going to ricks tonight! Tell what would be beneficial to monitor to help diagnose this issue?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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Well I'm going to ricks tonight! Tell what would be beneficial to monitor to help diagnose this issue?
I'm thinking you just need an ICP to IPR comparison at various RPMs and loads... also, rotational velocity numbers at operating temperature would be nice (only reads at idle so don't bother with the pedal). If you have Vista or Windows 7, you can use the snipping tool to take screen shots of this stuff. But I've got a hunch that your numbers won't be too significant if it's a small leak... but what do I know? Just guessing from what I've seen with my truck... I just know I have a slower pump and am building more pressure than you. I also know from experience as well as from talking to Clay and Joey that HPOP failure is pretty rare. I'm sure there are some guys on here that have a better idea of what to look for... I'm sure you've been through this too, but how about boost leaks or exhaust leaks?
 
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