Knowledge vs Subzero..........(Gelled Fuel)
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Yes, it is regular unleaded gasoline.
Other than lubrication, what is your concern?
I will guess you also would not run your truck on a high percentage of vegetable oil (vo) which i do and have been since 2003. I have been adding RUG for years.
I typically run 100% vo from March to August.
Other than lubrication, what is your concern?
I will guess you also would not run your truck on a high percentage of vegetable oil (vo) which i do and have been since 2003. I have been adding RUG for years.
I typically run 100% vo from March to August.
I guess I wasn't aware that VO didn't have lubrication. I have considered using it but haven't taken the time to get involved with it. Certainly one way to cheapen the operation of your truck.
Jim, sorry to hi-jack your thread. I'm done.
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Mark,
VO is excellent for lubrication, actually a mix as low as 2% beat out all the additives tested in this study. The big downside though - for us living up north it has a much higher cloud & Cold Filter Plug Point than #2 diesel, we'de gell in a heartbeat during winter. Last year Minnesota suspended their 5% bio requirementin #2 diesel because the temps dropped so low some truckers were gelling up. Sorry to hijack Jim!
VO is excellent for lubrication, actually a mix as low as 2% beat out all the additives tested in this study. The big downside though - for us living up north it has a much higher cloud & Cold Filter Plug Point than #2 diesel, we'de gell in a heartbeat during winter. Last year Minnesota suspended their 5% bio requirementin #2 diesel because the temps dropped so low some truckers were gelling up. Sorry to hijack Jim!
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David, it was my understanding that with ULSD (since 2007) gasoline is not as effective at lowering the CFPP as #1/Kero, it lowers the fuel viscosity, cetane number, and flash-point and can be a nasty fire hazard if the mixture ratio is too high. But not sure what the effects are when you mix VO, diesel and gasoline all together. You probobly don't see #1 diesel/kerosene at the pumps in South Carolina.
Sorry again Jim!
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I have used a variety of chemicals in varing percentages over the years.
My safety test of flamability. I pour my fuel in a jar, light a match and stick the burning match into the fuel.
The fuel consistantly extinguishes the burning match like 100% diesel will.
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Since starting with altertnative fuel, i have had more sucess than failure.
What made you thing vo had no lubrication?
What made you thing vo had no lubrication?
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Yes, it is regular unleaded gasoline.
Other than lubrication, what is your concern?
I will guess you also would not run your truck on a high percentage of vegetable oil (vo) which i do and have been since 2003. I have been adding RUG for years.
I typically run 100% vo from March to August.
Other than lubrication, what is your concern?
I will guess you also would not run your truck on a high percentage of vegetable oil (vo) which i do and have been since 2003. I have been adding RUG for years.
I typically run 100% vo from March to August.
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In the first post you linked my concern about lack of lubrication when running gasoline to a similar condition when running VO. I thought that there was something about a lack of lubrication from VO that I didn't know about. I have used biodiesel for quite a few years, when it is available, and will run it again.
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Rich,thanks for supporting America's farmers! Around here, if biodiesel is more than 2 cents higher than regular diesel it won't sell. It's felt that there isn't enough benefit over that. What additive do you run to prevent moisture accumulation?
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Good for you guys. Which biodiesel are you using, B5, B10, B20, or B100 ?
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David,
If I'm driving through Minnesota and fill up they have a mandatory 5% (B5) bio requirement. In South Dakota there are a few stations around town that offer a B10 and one were we go camping that has B20. Usually see it offered from Jun-Sep time frame. I'm not sure how states differ but the price is about the same as #2 here - or else nobody would buy it around here. Must be some tax incentive or something in place.
Mark,
I always run Dieseltreat Summer or Winter blend - it has a water dispersent in the formula. Water contamination is more of a concern during long term storage or in equipment that sits for long periods at a time. When I'm burning tanks at a time pullin the camper during the summer it doesn't have time to sit long.
If I'm driving through Minnesota and fill up they have a mandatory 5% (B5) bio requirement. In South Dakota there are a few stations around town that offer a B10 and one were we go camping that has B20. Usually see it offered from Jun-Sep time frame. I'm not sure how states differ but the price is about the same as #2 here - or else nobody would buy it around here. Must be some tax incentive or something in place.
Mark,
I always run Dieseltreat Summer or Winter blend - it has a water dispersent in the formula. Water contamination is more of a concern during long term storage or in equipment that sits for long periods at a time. When I'm burning tanks at a time pullin the camper during the summer it doesn't have time to sit long.
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