Maybe the fuel bowl heater is needed?
#1
Maybe the fuel bowl heater is needed?
Hi guys, I have an 02 F250 that is giving me some cold weather trouble. With new batteries, rebuilt starter and synthetic oil, she starts without any problems, but sometimes after driving for a few minutes, the engine loses power. It died a couple of times, but it will restart and drive at reduced power. It seems like gelled fuel, but I have been running diesel kleen and the pump I fill up at is supposedly winter fuel. I did replace the stock fuel pump with the walbro pump that was all the rage a few years ago and It seems to be making a higher pitched whine than in warmer weather. When I open the fuel bowl drain with the engine running, the sound of the pump does change. The filter only has a few hundred miles on it, so I wouldn't think it's plugged. This has me thinking the fuel may be gelling in the fuel bowl? I did have the fuel bowl heater short out a few years ago, so it is disconnected. I wonder if that could be my issue? If not, maybe my pump doesn't like to pump diesel fuel when it's -17* out? Thanks
#3
I feel better keeping my heater plugged in. We recently had a similar issue with my brothers OBS. I took the filter out to find a big block of ice sitting atop a broken fuel bowl heater. While I realize that's an extreme, it proves a point I think. Oh, and the water-in-fuel sensor never registered either.
#4
For starters, ditch the walbro fuel pump...I learned that lesson the hard way.
It's not designed to consistently supply the proper amount of fuel to the 7.3 at all times. I learned this last September when I had to replace it with a stock pump.
I installed it the Spring of 2011 and my 7.3 had inconsistent throttle response since then. Thinking it was just the nature of the beast, I just let it be. Over time, it evetually got weaker and weaker to the point where it died at work.
I replaced it in the parking lot at work and after driving it, it was a night and day difference between the pump. It still has consistent throttle response and the truck drives completely different from when it had the Walbro pump.
Didn't mean to get off topic, but thought I'd give you a heads up on that.
It's not designed to consistently supply the proper amount of fuel to the 7.3 at all times. I learned this last September when I had to replace it with a stock pump.
I installed it the Spring of 2011 and my 7.3 had inconsistent throttle response since then. Thinking it was just the nature of the beast, I just let it be. Over time, it evetually got weaker and weaker to the point where it died at work.
I replaced it in the parking lot at work and after driving it, it was a night and day difference between the pump. It still has consistent throttle response and the truck drives completely different from when it had the Walbro pump.
Didn't mean to get off topic, but thought I'd give you a heads up on that.
#5
In addition,
I would replace the fuel filter and throw some #1 diesel in the tank when the OAT's get down that low. #2 with additives would still be in the danger zone of gelling at those temps. Here's some pics so you can get an idea of what is happening. Especially if your truck is parked outside. Once the filter catches the wax crystals it will reduce the flow through the filter.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...ml#post8445770
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post13987449
Also, carry some diesel 911 around, so if/when you lose power again you can throw some in the filter & the tank. If it takes care of your symptoms then you know it was gelling.
I would replace the fuel filter and throw some #1 diesel in the tank when the OAT's get down that low. #2 with additives would still be in the danger zone of gelling at those temps. Here's some pics so you can get an idea of what is happening. Especially if your truck is parked outside. Once the filter catches the wax crystals it will reduce the flow through the filter.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...ml#post8445770
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post13987449
Also, carry some diesel 911 around, so if/when you lose power again you can throw some in the filter & the tank. If it takes care of your symptoms then you know it was gelling.
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#7
For starters, ditch the walbro fuel pump...I learned that lesson the hard way.
It's not designed to consistently supply the proper amount of fuel to the 7.3 at all times. I learned this last September when I had to replace it with a stock pump.
I installed it the Spring of 2011 and my 7.3 had inconsistent throttle response since then. Thinking it was just the nature of the beast, I just let it be. Over time, it evetually got weaker and weaker to the point where it died at work.
I replaced it in the parking lot at work and after driving it, it was a night and day difference between the pump. It still has consistent throttle response and the truck drives completely different from when it had the Walbro pump.
Didn't mean to get off topic, but thought I'd give you a heads up on that.
It's not designed to consistently supply the proper amount of fuel to the 7.3 at all times. I learned this last September when I had to replace it with a stock pump.
I installed it the Spring of 2011 and my 7.3 had inconsistent throttle response since then. Thinking it was just the nature of the beast, I just let it be. Over time, it evetually got weaker and weaker to the point where it died at work.
I replaced it in the parking lot at work and after driving it, it was a night and day difference between the pump. It still has consistent throttle response and the truck drives completely different from when it had the Walbro pump.
Didn't mean to get off topic, but thought I'd give you a heads up on that.
I will also check the fuel filter for ice when it's warmer tomorrow. It's supposed to be a balmy 14*.
Thanks for the fast responses guys.
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#8
No, this is very on topic. I have been noticing the sound of the pump lately, and I think the extreme weather is probably stressing it enough that it doesn't want to work. I will also check the fuel filter for ice when it's warmer tomorrow. It's supposed to be a balmy 14*. Thanks for the fast responses guys.
It didn't hit me that the pump had been warning me for days before until it died and I had to replace it.
#9
Hi guys, I have an 02 F250 that is giving me some cold weather trouble. With new batteries, rebuilt starter and synthetic oil, she starts without any problems, but sometimes after driving for a few minutes, the engine loses power. It died a couple of times, but it will restart and drive at reduced power. It seems like gelled fuel, but I have been running diesel kleen and the pump I fill up at is supposedly winter fuel.
#10
I still have not been able to find a definate answer on the exact purpose of the fuel bowl heater or how necessary it is, all I know is mine is completly removed & my truck still starts & runs just fine with temps dropping to -35 here (that's straight temp, no wind chill crap). I just make sure to always fill up at a reputable station & I put straight #1 in.
#11
Guys, you are forgetting one import thing here that is the fuel tank pickup rubber foot, it might be disintegrated into pieces and a piece might be getting sucked up, starving the pump.That's why he losing power as he's driving after starting the demand on the engine is not alot, after he starts driving the pieces at the bottom of the tank are moving around and. Question here is can you run the tank to almost empty. You might have to drop the Tank.
#12
I believe the white bottle of Diesel Kleen has anti-gel, not the other one. Did you use white?
The Walbro pump is not engineered for diesel and is not manufactured at the quality level of the stocker.
A whining pump is a good clue, it could be a pickup issue, a pump issue, or a gelled fuel issue. I installed a fuel pressure pump for days like this, and it was a total eye-opener the very day I installed it. I had to re-design my fuel supply mods.
The Walbro pump is not engineered for diesel and is not manufactured at the quality level of the stocker.
A whining pump is a good clue, it could be a pickup issue, a pump issue, or a gelled fuel issue. I installed a fuel pressure pump for days like this, and it was a total eye-opener the very day I installed it. I had to re-design my fuel supply mods.
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I still have not been able to find a definate answer on the exact purpose of the fuel bowl heater or how necessary it is, all I know is mine is completly removed & my truck still starts & runs just fine with temps dropping to -35 here (that's straight temp, no wind chill crap). I just make sure to always fill up at a reputable station & I put straight #1 in.