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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 12:42 PM
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Im thinking of picking up this 99 expy 4x4 Eddie Bauer. Its absolutely cherry inside and out, shifts smooth, plenty of power (5.4) no vibrations, brakes are perfect. The guy tells me it had a slight stumble and low rpm miss with no engine codes so he replaced the computer and thats all (other than regular maintenance) that has been done to it. The only issue is it has 171,000 miles on it! BUT, inside and out, if it didnt have an odometer, it looks and drives like a 40,000 mile car thats been very well cared for. Price on it was 6000 and some change, lowest he is willing to take is 5500. What do you guys think? Keep looking for a lower milage one, or the price is right?
 
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 09:23 AM
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The 4x4 are hard to find, and if it is in good running order. My 2000 I purchased new and I got over 200,000 miles out if it. Before I have it to my kid and they still have it, but you would not recognize it as mine. My daughter has no idea about cars or trucks. But I'm sure it has well over 250,000. It all depends on how it was taken care of and the maintenance. Sounds about right for the price, maybe a little high. Check out Kelly Blue Book!
 
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 10:24 AM
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4x4 are not hard to find and alot of people get all worried about mileage. 171,000 is nothing to worry about.
 
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MADFord4X4
The 4x4 are hard to find
It depends on where you live. Down in Ventura, CA where a 4WD would almost never get used they're few and far between. But if you live up north where snow is an issue then a 4WD can be found just about anywhere.
 
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 04:48 PM
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I think the price is steep. I bought my '97 XLT 4x4 with 107k for $3500. Mine sounded just as cherry as your find. The country is in a recession (or so the "experts" say) so I'd haggle. Remember it's still a 11 year old truck. Offer $4500 and see what happens. If it's been for sale long enough and the person wants to move it, he'll/she'll bite.
 
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 04:56 PM
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I bought my 98 Expedition in March of 2010 with 160,000 for 2,700.
 
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Nice. Thanks to everyone for the input. One other thing I found odd (although I dont know alot about these trucks) is that on the 4x4 selector it has AWD, 4x4 hi and 4x4 lo. So its all wheel drive.
 
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Nice. Thanks to everyone for the input. One other thing I found odd (although I dont know alot about these trucks) is that on the 4x4 selector it has AWD, 4x4 hi and 4x4 lo. So its all wheel drive.
When in the A4wd mode, when you get rear tire spin, the power to the rear is transferred to the front axle. Never at any given point are you in actual 4x4 mode when using the A4wd.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 06:02 PM
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actually it should say A4WD which is auto 4 wheel drive...so 2wd until it senses different speeds front and rear then automatically engages 4wd.
 
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 07:01 PM
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actually it should say A4WD which is auto 4 wheel drive...so 2wd until it senses different speeds front and rear then automatically engages 4wd.
You are wrong, when in A4wd, you never have the 4x4 function as when in 4x4 hi or lo. Through the sensors in the vehicle while in the A4wd mode, when the rear tire spins the power is discontinued to the rear and transferred to the front and this only lasts until the rear tire/s stop the spinning. once this happens, the power is then transferred to the rear as in normal operation. As I said earlier, when in A4wd mode you are never in a actual 4x4 mode nor do you have 4x4 capabilitys.
 
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Originally Posted by hodges710
You are wrong, when in A4wd, you never have the 4x4 function as when in 4x4 hi or lo. Through the sensors in the vehicle while in the A4wd mode, when the rear tire spins the power is discontinued to the rear and transferred to the front and this only lasts until the rear tire/s stop the spinning. once this happens, the power is then transferred to the rear as in normal operation. As I said earlier, when in A4wd mode you are never in a actual 4x4 mode nor do you have 4x4 capabilitys.
Londart was EXACTLY correct.

Power is NEVER discontinued to the rear. This is a rear drive truck with an electronically controlled part time 4wd transfer case.

If there is slip dectected when in A4WD, the system engages the front drive and operates exactly like it was in 4Hi.

It works exactly like any other part time 4x4 with open differentials and as such the standard of the industry refers to it as 4x4.
 
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To the OP, that truck is seriously overpriced, $3500 tops. There are lots of nice ones out there.
 
Old Jan 25, 2011 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Greenie
Londart was EXACTLY correct.

Power is NEVER discontinued to the rear. This is a rear drive truck with an electronically controlled part time 4wd transfer case.

If there is slip dectected when in A4WD, the system engages the front drive and operates exactly like it was in 4Hi.

It works exactly like any other part time 4x4 with open differentials and as such the standard of the industry refers to it as 4x4.
I know ford changes things from time to time but with my 98 Expedition, when in A4wd and rear tire spins, power is transferred to the front and the power to the rear is for what ever small time frame is stopped. Seems to be that many people misunderstand the A4wd mode or maybe they are not aware of changes through the years.
 
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Originally Posted by hodges710
I know ford changes things from time to time but with my 98 Expedition, when in A4wd and rear tire spins, power is transferred to the front and the power to the rear is for what ever small time frame is stopped. Seems to be that many people misunderstand the A4wd mode or maybe they are not aware of changes through the years.
I was wondering how you know that the power stops going to the rear? I have a 97 with the 4 way selector. When it is in a4wd and there is limited traction it will spin wheels on both front and back. It seems in the scenario you describe the power would be constantly shifting from back to front to back ect... since the back would stop right away when power was removed. From what I have seen looking at the design of the transfer case there is no way to disconnect power to the rear while in use.
 
Old Jan 25, 2011 | 09:07 AM
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I know ford changes things from time to time but with my 98 Expedition, when in A4wd and rear tire spins, power is transferred to the front and the power to the rear is for what ever small time frame is stopped. Seems to be that many people misunderstand the A4wd mode or maybe they are not aware of changes through the years.
You are wrong.

The EXACT same transfer case was fitted each year 1997-02. Some have a 2wd setting and some default to A4WD, but they all work the same. There is a shift motor driven clutch pack to engage the front drive. It has infinate engagement settings up to 100% lock where the torque split is 50/50 front to rear. Speed sensors monitor the front and rear propshaft speeds and the shift motor engages the front drive progressivley to keep speeds equal. In theory it can operate similarly to full time 4wd but that would require slippery conditions and constant power application. It is usually unlocked, or locked in practice. It cycles fairly smoothly and quickly in most instances but can be clunky from slippery standing starts.

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