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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 02:08 PM
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A4WD is not a substitue for 4WD, it is more like an enhancement for 2WD should you have a momentary loss of traction. That's why you have the T4HI (True 4 Hi) selection right next to it on the dial.
Thanks for saying it a different way that the guy that has all the knowledge (lmfao) can know understand it. I laugh at him for he seems to think that a spinning tire as in the rear (while in the A4wd mode) gets you any tractions for at this time the front axle is then being powered only till the rear stops spinning. Of course me responding to your post, the slightly dumb a s s will talk his s h i t again thinking he knows it all. lol
 
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by hodges710
Thanks for saying it a different way that the guy that has all the knowledge (lmfao) can know understand it. I laugh at him for he seems to think that a spinning tire as in the rear (while in the A4wd mode) gets you any tractions for at this time the front axle is then being powered only till the rear stops spinning. Of course me responding to your post, the slightly dumb a s s will talk his s h i t again thinking he knows it all. lol

YO FOOL,

Explain to me how engaging the front drive doesn't make it 4wd.

Front and rear providing traction, even if only for a few seconds is STILL 4wd.

I have no idea why this is so confusing for you.

When it comes to this subject, I DO know it all. Are so insecure that this is offensive to you? Sorry stupid question.

NOTHING in alwaysfords41's post supported you. Back to school sonny. Put reading and comprehension on the list of "to do" while you are there.

You have yet to answer any of the questions posed to you. Tell us what your "TRUE 4x4" is. I patiently await your boundless wisdom on the subject.

Or you can continue to try and insult me, which just makes you look more and more foolish. Either way, it is good entertainment
 
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hodges710
Thanks for saying it a different way that the guy that has all the knowledge (lmfao) can know understand it. I laugh at him for he seems to think that a spinning tire as in the rear (while in the A4wd mode) gets you any tractions for at this time the front axle is then being powered only till the rear stops spinning. Of course me responding to your post, the slightly dumb a s s will talk his s h i t again thinking he knows it all. lol
Um, yeah. I was trying to explain it a different way to YOU. You're not getting it. The A4WD selection is not intended to be your 4WD mode, it is basically 2WD with the ability to engage 4WD when slip is detected. An enhancement or advantage over plain old 2WD for those select few instances. If you want 4WD you need to select it. BG is correct.
 
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by alwaysfords41
Um, yeah. I was trying to explain it a different way to YOU. You're not getting it. The A4WD selection is not intended to be your 4WD mode, it is basically 2WD with the ability to engage 4WD when slip is detected. An enhancement or advantage over plain old 2WD for those select few instances. If you want 4WD you need to select it. BG is correct.
Im the one that has been saying that A4wd is not intended to be the 4x4.
 
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 03:39 PM
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YO FOOL,

Explain to me how engaging the front drive doesn't make it 4wd.

Front and rear providing traction, even if only for a few seconds is STILL 4wd.

I have no idea why this is so confusing for you.

When it comes to this subject, I DO know it all. Are so insecure that this is offensive to you? Sorry stupid question.

NOTHING in alwaysfords41's post supported you. Back to school sonny. Put reading and comprehension on the list of "to do" while you are there.

You have yet to answer any of the questions posed to you. Tell us what your "TRUE 4x4" is. I patiently await your boundless wisdom on the subject.

Or you can continue to try and insult me, which just makes you look more and more foolish. Either way, it is good entertainment
ok dumb a s s, a spinning tire does not give you any traction which is one plus of the A4wd system but by no means does if give you 4x4 performance for once the rear tire stops spinning, the front axle is no longer being power.
 
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Greenie
YO FOOL,

Explain to me how engaging the front drive doesn't make it 4wd.

Front and rear providing traction, even if only for a few seconds is STILL 4wd.

I have no idea why this is so confusing for you.

When it comes to this subject, I DO know it all. Are so insecure that this is offensive to you? Sorry stupid question.

NOTHING in alwaysfords41's post supported you. Back to school sonny. Put reading and comprehension on the list of "to do" while you are there.

You have yet to answer any of the questions posed to you. Tell us what your "TRUE 4x4" is. I patiently await your boundless wisdom on the subject.

Or you can continue to try and insult me, which just makes you look more and more foolish. Either way, it is good entertainment
This is great fun wiht you, although I do feel alittle sad for you for the best part about you ran down your mother's leg. dumb a s s
 
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 03:41 PM
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 03:45 PM
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It seems interesting that if it's not really 4WD that they would call it A4WD. The concept of enhanced 2WD is something I have never heard of before.
I often go all day running dirt roads in A4WD mode, when I hit an arroyo or some soft sand it kicks in and gets me out. When I don't need it, it disengages. In the rare times we have snow or wet streets it's ready to go.
I wonder, if you put it in 4WD mode on a dirt road with good traction and it doesn't drive any different than if it was in A4WD, could you say you were 4 wheelin' now whereas before you weren't?
Do you think if I label my selector E2WD I might be able to get better mileage?
 
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by hodges710
ok dumb a s s, a spinning tire does not give you any traction which is one plus of the A4wd system but by no means does if give you 4x4 performance for once the rear tire stops spinning, the front axle is no longer being power.
If your rear tire is not spinning and the front is disconnected, why do you need 4WD? It seems like the 2WD mode is sufficient.
 
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 03:53 PM
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So, did you buy the truck. I paid $4975 for a 2000 E Bauer. Loaded with everything. 155K for mileage. Book out at $8K. For here, it was a good deal, every other one I looked at was $7000+ for 1999 or 2000 Exp(XLT or E.B) Sound like a decent price. You will pay for the one owner thing. It's a gimic but... Good luck.
 
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by hodges710
Im the one that has been saying that A4wd is not intended to be the 4x4.
You've said a lot of things, but that certainly wasn't what started this.....
 
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 05:19 PM
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ok dumb a s s, a spinning tire does not give you any traction which is one plus of the A4wd system but by no means does if give you 4x4 performance for once the rear tire stops spinning, the front axle is no longer being power.
Yes it does.

Are you trying to prove to us that you really do not understand how the system works? You are doing a really good job of it.

Do you think the system is able to react in a split second? The enagement does not work like a light switch. When it detects slip it engages the front drive. It DOES NOT disengage the second the slip stops. It is designed to gradually enagage and disengage, that is why, generally, the engagement and disengagement are not felt. The computer will gradually start to disengage the front drive when the speed differences are gone, this takes a few seconds at the very least, so you still have 4wd during this period. If the slippery condition is gone you go back to 2wd, if in the process of disengagement a speed differential is again detected the clutch pack is ramped back up to full engagement. So, if you need the additional traction, it is there, if not is defaults back to 2wd. The clutch pack is designed to work like a differential, it allows some slip between the front and rear while maintaining front tractive efforts. It is not super sophisticated so it has to feel its way using only the speed sensors, throttle and steering positions. It most definately provides front traction for a period of time after the speed differential is gone, and it most definately can provide full 4x4 before you know you need it.

I also can't figure out why you think it is so bad. I find it useful within its limitations. It keeps me from having to switch in and out of 4Hi on varied road surfaces. Try not to be such a hater sonny boy, it is an ugly personality trait.

You are also wrong about a spinning wheel not providing traction. That is a rather variable event. Even a spinning tire in most cases is providing some tractive force.

You could save yourself a LOT of embarrassment at this point by just admitting you didn't fully understand. I doubt you will but that behavior is likely directly related to your age. Hopefully you wise up, otherwise get ready for a rough time out there in the real world. You sure talk tough on the internet, it is easy to do. If you were to run your yap like this in my face, well, hopefully you aren't ever THAT stupid.
 
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 05:41 PM
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Yes it does.

Are you trying to prove to us that you really do not understand how the system works? You are doing a really good job of it.

Do you think the system is able to react in a split second? The enagement does not work like a light switch. When it detects slip it engages the front drive. It DOES NOT disengage the second the slip stops. It is designed to gradually enagage and disengage, that is why, generally, the engagement and disengagement are not felt. The computer will gradually start to disengage the front drive when the speed differences are gone, this takes a few seconds at the very least, so you still have 4wd during this period. If the slippery condition is gone you go back to 2wd, if in the process of disengagement a speed differential is again detected the clutch pack is ramped back up to full engagement. So, if you need the additional traction, it is there, if not is defaults back to 2wd. The clutch pack is designed to work like a differential, it allows some slip between the front and rear while maintaining front tractive efforts. It is not super sophisticated so it has to feel its way using only the speed sensors, throttle and steering positions. It most definately provides front traction for a period of time after the speed differential is gone, and it most definately can provide full 4x4 before you know you need it.

I also can't figure out why you think it is so bad. I find it useful within its limitations. It keeps me from having to switch in and out of 4Hi on varied road surfaces. Try not to be such a hater sonny boy, it is an ugly personality trait.

You are also wrong about a spinning wheel not providing traction. That is a rather variable event. Even a spinning tire in most cases is providing some tractive force.

You could save yourself a LOT of embarrassment at this point by just admitting you didn't fully understand. I doubt you will but that behavior is likely directly related to your age. Hopefully you wise up, otherwise get ready for a rough time out there in the real world. You sure talk tough on the internet, it is easy to do. If you were to run your yap like this in my face, well, hopefully you aren't ever THAT stupid.
Well tell me where you would want to meet, you are so funny
 
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 06:57 PM
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Take it to chat rooms. I really don't think cOpe was looking for an argument to start. He got one. Right, wrong, who cares. Read the owners manual if you want to know how the a4wd works. He asked for advice about purchasing instead he got two guys who want to beat each other up.
 
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 09:14 PM
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Thank you Fordno1! this was awesome tho, I love starting cyber wars.

Hodges and big greenie; my bronco would pull both of your expys plus mine uphill backwards in the snow in 2wd. Hows that fuel for the fire!
 



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