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Boy the more I read about this stuff the more it seems to be worth the money. I normally run Mobil 1 but it is not available in 5w-20. I want to stick with 5w-20 till my warranty is up on my 03 Expedition.
Is this stuff just snake oil or not? The claims on the web sight just seem to good to be true. Its like the old adds for Slick 50, Dura Lube and such
I would like to hear from people who use it or haved used it and there thoughts on it.
Is this stuff just snake oil or not? The claims on the web sight just seem to good to be true. Its like the old adds for Slick 50, Dura Lube and such
I would like to hear from people who use it or haved used it and there thoughts on it.
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The Mobil One in 0w-20 should be due to hit the shelves at any time. For what its worth, the HTHS is 2.6 for the Motorcraft 5w-20 blend and the Mobil One is 2.65. When the new GF-4's come out in May this year, there really won't be much reason for the average guy to use a synthetic. The differences between the two is getting smaller. The key reasons to use a synthetic was a high flash point and low oxidation rate. Today, even Walmart junk oil will hit a 400 flashpoint. And with the group III oils that are now labeled "synthetic" but are actually mineral oils, oxidation is no longer a factor. Good news is that you soon won't be changing the oil in your new vehicle. The new "fill for life" technology is a reality and I expect to see it on the street in the next 5 years.
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Amsoil, NEO, Redline, Royal Purple and probably others are legitimate specialty oil companies. I would not put them in the "snake oil" category. Amsoil is a multi-level-marketing organization. The wild claims come from the Amsoil dealers that seem to be everywhere.
While these are excellent products, I do not believe that they are worth the money. The ingredients are purchased from the major oil companies anyway and are blended and bottled by these guys. They may be more expensive to make, but that does not necessarily make them perform better in you engine.
I undersand the dilemma that owners of new Fords and Hondas have with the 5W-20 grade. I would use the Motorcraft synthetic blend, at least during the warranty. BTW, the Honda oil is apparently just repackaged Mobil dino.
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While these are excellent products, I do not believe that they are worth the money. The ingredients are purchased from the major oil companies anyway and are blended and bottled by these guys. They may be more expensive to make, but that does not necessarily make them perform better in you engine.
I undersand the dilemma that owners of new Fords and Hondas have with the 5W-20 grade. I would use the Motorcraft synthetic blend, at least during the warranty. BTW, the Honda oil is apparently just repackaged Mobil dino.
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Castrol GTX 5w20 meets the Ford 153-H spec. Both the Castrol and Motorcraft are available at Walmart for around $1.77/qt. These are both good products and I would feel comfortable using either, rather than paying several times as much for a pricey synthetic. Just my .02 worth.
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Although their products are good, Amsoil makes outlandish claims about them. I even heard a salesman say that if you have a bypass filter, you never have to change the oil! Most of their oils are not API certified (warranty issue) and they are extremely expensive. Not to mention, you have to deal with a MLM company that not only sounds like, but acts like Amway.
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any oil maker that claims better oil protection or longer oil intervals than what the manufactuer recommends must know someting really special indeed. Can you name any new car manufacturer that uses amsoil? Royal Purple? etc. Use a good quality synthetic if that is your preference but mainly use the appropriate grade oil for your car that has the "starburst" seal of approval. Change the oil every 3000 miles and use a quality oil filter. Ergo, you have optimal engine protection. imo. p.s. i change the oil on my 97 4.6 windsor V8 every 3000 miles. I hit 2000 miles today since my last oil change and as is my habit, i checked the oil. Hasnt used a drop in 2k miles. Truck has 142,000 miles on it.
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Ironically, Amsoil's XL-7500 5W-20 motor oil IS API certified, probably the only series that is. It also meets Ford's WSS-M2C153-H spec. And it's a Group III synthetic, which is hydroprocessed petroleum oil basestock. Claims 7,500 miles or six months service.
Lo and behold today while shopping the local Mill's Fleet Farm, noticed they had this stuff on the shelf for $4.99 per quart. First time I've ever seen Amsoil's multi-level marketed products in a larger retail chain.
Mobil 1 SuperSyn Ow, 5W, and 10W-30 oils, which I believe are true PAO synthetics, were selling for $4.49 per quart at the same store.
Lo and behold today while shopping the local Mill's Fleet Farm, noticed they had this stuff on the shelf for $4.99 per quart. First time I've ever seen Amsoil's multi-level marketed products in a larger retail chain.
Mobil 1 SuperSyn Ow, 5W, and 10W-30 oils, which I believe are true PAO synthetics, were selling for $4.49 per quart at the same store.
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SuperSyn is a blend of PAO, esters and group III. Tri-Synthetic was the same base oil blend with an earlier additive package, hence the name "Tri-Synthetic". Source: telephone conversation with ExxonMobil technical support.
BTW, Delvac 1 is 100% PAO base oil with a lot of additives.
BTW, Delvac 1 is 100% PAO base oil with a lot of additives.
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Again, Amsoil's XL-7500 series 5W-30, 10W-30, and 5W-20 motor oils are API certified. I physically handled a quart of the 5W-20 last weekend, and it indeed had the API starburst on the label. It has been the only oil of their's that I've seen that says in fact, it is API certified.
Yes, the current API SL and SJ certs call for less anti-wear additives in motor to help preserve the lives of catalytic converters. Actually means today's motor oils provide less protection lubrication wise, than earlier blends.
Yes, the current API SL and SJ certs call for less anti-wear additives in motor to help preserve the lives of catalytic converters. Actually means today's motor oils provide less protection lubrication wise, than earlier blends.
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Fill for life technology means your new vehicle will come from the factory with lubricants installed that will not need to be changed. Better said- you won't change your oil anymore. The units I have seen are running what appears to be a modified Mercon (ATF) in the engine and the transmission. The engine and transmission share the same liquids.
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