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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 02:14 AM
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Electric Chock

wheres a good spot to hook up the positive wire for the electric chock? Edelbrock is suggesting run it into the cab on the fuse block. when i got the truck it was hooked up to the positive on the coil. i have it unpluged right now.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 02:28 AM
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Any keyed 12V power source is fine.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 09:11 AM
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Not the greatest place in the world but I just ran mine to the winshield wiper motor.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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Not to hyjack this thread, but how do you tell the difference between an electric choke that needs 12v and one that needs 7.5v off of the alternator stator? I have a Holley 4160 w/electric choke that isn't hooked up. How does one know which way to go with supplying power to it?
 
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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I think its all the factory carbs use less than battery voltage.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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When you say "factory", you mean factory supplied? This 4160 was a replacement carb put on by the po. Are there markings on the choke itself that indicated it's power needs?
 
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 11:07 AM
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If its an aftermarket, universal carb like you'd get from jegs I think they use battery voltage but if you were to get a carb from say, napa and it is specificly for your vehicle it should use the same wire as the factory choke. I am ASSuming a lot here, so hopefully someone will correct me if wrong. I've never confirmed it but I suspect the OEM choke stat has 0 or close to 0 resistance, thus the need for the lower voltage (some resistance in the circuit elsewhere), otherwise it would flow too much current. The ones that use straight battery voltage should have more resistance in the choke stat. Sooooo, the answer to your question is, I dont know.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Anafiel
When you say "factory", you mean factory supplied? This 4160 was a replacement carb put on by the po. Are there markings on the choke itself that indicated it's power needs?
I believe all aftermarket Holley and Edelbrock carbs say to use 12v. The factory used the line going to the altenator so that it doesn't drain the battery when you have the key switched on to listen to the radio. Plus, you won't really want the choke opening up when the engine isn't even running.

You can use your list number on the carb and look for the manual, but it will simply say to "You must use a 12v+ source"

I'm using 12v on my 4180 that originally used the stock wiring, and it's just fine.

http://www.holley.com/data/Products/...199R7948-5.pdf
 
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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If the element has one bullet-like contact and says Motorcraft, or has a Ford part # it takes the 7.5+/-V from the alternator stator.



If it it has male and female spade connectors it is the standard 45-258 Holley 12V element.



Of course you can just swap a new Ford element or the one from your old carb and avoid all the rewiring...
 
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sw1tchfoot
I believe all aftermarket Holley and Edelbrock carbs say to use 12v. The factory used the line going to the altenator so that it doesn't drain the battery when you have the key switched on to listen to the radio. Plus, you won't really want the choke opening up when the engine isn't even running.

You can use your list number on the carb and look for the manual, but it will simply say to "You must use a 12v+ source"

I'm using 12v on my 4180 that originally used the stock wiring, and it's just fine.

http://www.holley.com/data/Products/Technical/199R7948-5.pdf
It's to keep the choke from opening when the engine is not running. If the choke is hooked to a 12v key on source, heat will be applied when the circut is on, even if the engine is not running.

There are two factory type choke systems used on these trucks, and a third and fourth aftermarket one that can be found.

Factory 1: Thermastatic choke: Uses the choke stove tubes from the exaust manifold and/or heater hose routing. It uses manifold or heater hose heat to operate the choke.

Factory 2: Electrically assisted, thermastatic choke. Exact same as the first one using the choke stove and exaust manifold heat, except it has a connection with the altenator stator wire for speeded up operation. This choke setup is the most comon.

Aftermarket 1: Manual Choke. By this timeframe none of these trucks used manual chokes from the factory due to smog compliance laws.

Aftermarket 2: Electric Choke. Uses 12v power for operation. Does not use any thermastatic controls.

Hope this helps.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 07:06 PM
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on my 86 the choke is 12v measured on the factory wiring.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 07:10 PM
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Hmmm, my '87 with a 4180 has a factory 7.5V+/- electric only choke coming from the stator.

As was said, if the engine stalls while being left to warm up the choke sees no voltage.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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my factor power wire to the electric choke isnt there from the PO. the PO hooked it up from the pos on the coil. i dont really want it on the coil.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 09:07 PM
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You should have a white & black wire in your 2G alternator harness that has a single bullet-like connector on the end.
This is what should go to the factory choke.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 86fn150
on my 86 the choke is 12v measured on the factory wiring.
12v AC (alternating current)

7.5v DC (Direct Current)

It depends on which setting you have your multimeter set to.


If your meter is set for DC and you have 12V DC then this is not how it is supposed to be hooked up from the factory.
 
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