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Old 12-28-2010, 10:09 PM
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86 mustang 302 into a 94 f150 with 302

Anyone done this? Any issues with any of the F150 truck 302 intake, distributor,emissions bolting up to the stang 302? Harmonic balancer/timing cover same?

Looking at using the car 302 version long block in place of the truck 302.Utilizing all the truck 302 parts except for the short block and heads.
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pretty sure they are the same.
 
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:10 AM
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You're wasting your time here unless the truck engine is shot and needs replacement. A 5.0 is a 5.0 and that means they're all the same except for a few parts, in this case the only internal differences between the truck and mustang 5.0 is a cam with a little more lift an duration on the intake side and forged versus cast pistons, literally everything else is the same.. same block, crank, con rods, same heads and therefore the same compression ratio.

With that out of the way to use a stang 5.0 in a truck strip it to the bare longblock and install the truck oilpan and pickup, timing cover and water pump, intake(upper and lower with all the truck parts attached), the truck distributor, and the truck accessory brackets and accessories.

P.S. Just noticed this is an '86 stang motor, the heads on this motor are unique and almost universally trashed as the worst SBF heads ever produced, but the motor will still make about the same HP as the '94 truck version so if this is just a driver then you'll be good, but if you were hoping for more output you'll have to find a set of E7's from a later 5.0 or use those from your truck motor.
 
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Thanks. Yeah the truck 302 # 8 cyl. is causing blow by and low compression. Have a chance to get an '86 302 that was recently rebuilt. I will find out if the heads are in fact '86. I could use my heads and have the heads done but the 86 302 heads were redone. The heads on the 86 have heart shaped chambers I was told. What years do the E7 heads start.
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:37 PM
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Heart shaped combustion chambers are the E6SE(1986) heads.. the ones that everybody hates. E7TE heads started in 1987.
 
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So for the most part my 94 heads are better but would not loose much hp or torque with the E6 heads.....using truck just for cruising and every so often towing a small boat. Thanks
 
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For those purposes the E6 heads are fine, they actually do a real good job in the TQ department and are less detonation prone than the E7's.
 
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Found out the 86 302 has "24 # injectors" in the intake! Engine was in a 93 F150 for a short time (all emissions were disconnected) and said it liked gas. I suppose it did. If I get the motor I will use my F150 intake & injectors and would be hooking all the emissions stuff up. May can the 86 heads and do a valve job on mine. Based on my pass rebuilds(chevies) I'd bet that my F150 cyl's would need overbore and or have a good bit of ridge at the top(due to the blow by cyl.).
My F150 has a 373 rear posi and all stock exhaust except for 3" upto muffler then 2 1/2. Back in the mid 90"s I towed a 36 mercede on a car hauler trailer 850 mi. and it pulled fine. I think that the little 302 done just fine being it had a 373 rear. Hp wise it is not the greastest but it will tow my 2800 # boat/trailer just fine.
BTW the pistons used in the 94 302 F150 where they dished? The cam flat tappet. When did the 302 start putting roller cam in them.
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Originally Posted by my93
Found out the 86 302 has "24 # injectors" in the intake! Engine was in a 93 F150 for a short time (all emissions were disconnected) and said it liked gas. I suppose it did. If I get the motor I will use my F150 intake & injectors and would be hooking all the emissions stuff up.
Good call.

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Based on my pass rebuilds(chevies) I'd bet that my F150 cyl's would need overbore and or have a good bit of ridge at the top(due to the blow by cyl.).
You may be plesently surprised what you find.. coming from the land of Garbage Motors.. and that's not just me kicking the General they really did use garbage to make the SBC at that time. GM was heavily into recycled material and the factory machine work left a lot to be desired, it wasn't uncommon at all to find undisolved bolts and other bit in the blocks when machinening the deck, and finding heads that weren't already cracked was next to impossible.
I wouldn't doubt the cylinders on your engine are worn but it probably won't take much to bring them back to spec... maybe only 10-20thou. Many machine shops automaically do "everything" to every motor they rebuild(cause that's what the Chevys need) but the fact is many of these small Fords don't really need it. The 200k 351 I rebuild some time ago didn't need any crank or block work outside cylinder bores, and I could have got away with 20over but I opted for 30 simply because there are more piston options at that size. But all the crank bearings in this motor are stock size, how often do you see that on a rebuild.

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My F150 has a 373 rear posi.
That ratio was not available from the factory(though it should have been the default for this motor), was this something you swapped in?

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BTW the pistons used in the 94 302 F150 where they dished? The cam flat tappet. When did the 302 start putting roller cam in them.
Pistons have a small dish and the cam is a roller, that stated in '92 in the trucks.
 
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