81 f150 4x4 302 v8
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81 f150 4x4 302 v8
Motor blew up in my truck need to replace it does it matter which 302 I use (long block or???) has a 302 out of an 89 mustang that was converted to carb with c6 transmission and stock np208...any help would be great.
Last edited by Kayla McDonald; 06-12-2016 at 11:12 PM. Reason: forgot something
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Welcome to FTE, Kayla
Like Gary stated, the oil pans are different. You should be able to use most of the 302's up to 89 (obviously). Some blocks require a slightly longer distributor shaft (not sure which year that started), but you should be able to swap some, if not all of the parts from the 89 engine over to the engine that you choose for the replacement. My rebuild candidate was an 87 EFI car engine and it required the longer distributor shaft. The 84 oil pan, cylinder heads, intake manifold and carburetor were transferred to the 87 engine.
Do you know if the current 89 engine is the H.O. option?
Do you know if the current 89 engine is the H.O. option?
#4
There can be some other minor differences too. I put a newer 302 in my '71 Bronco and found that it was missing a boss to attach the mechanical clutch linkage used in '71. I think your '81 would also have a mechanical clutch (if it has a manual trans) so that might be an issue. Although it wasn't a huge deal to get around.
And given that difference (as well as what's already been mentioned), I wouldn't be shocked if there were one or two other things that might pop up during a swap. But likely nothing that couldn't be dealt with.
And given that difference (as well as what's already been mentioned), I wouldn't be shocked if there were one or two other things that might pop up during a swap. But likely nothing that couldn't be dealt with.
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#6
There can be some other minor differences too. I put a newer 302 in my '71 Bronco and found that it was missing a boss to attach the mechanical clutch linkage used in '71.
I think your '81 would also have a mechanical clutch (if it has a manual trans) so that might be an issue.
I think your '81 would also have a mechanical clutch (if it has a manual trans) so that might be an issue.
#7
When you say "blew up", what exactly happened?
Truck engines have different connecting rods than car engines. I would search for another truck engine...or police interceptors have the truck rods too. One way to tell is look at the connecting rod bolts. If the head is rectangle, it's a car engine. If they are football shaped, it's a truck or interceptor engine. Personally, I would not use a car engine in a truck...especially the way I use them.
Also, camshaft differences may also affect performance in a truck.
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#8
When you say "blew up", what exactly happened?
Truck engines have different connecting rods than car engines.
I would search for another truck engine...or police interceptors have the truck rods too.
One way to tell is look at the connecting rod bolts. If the head is rectangle, it's a car engine. If they are football shaped, it's a truck or interceptor engine.
Truck engines have different connecting rods than car engines.
I would search for another truck engine...or police interceptors have the truck rods too.
One way to tell is look at the connecting rod bolts. If the head is rectangle, it's a car engine. If they are football shaped, it's a truck or interceptor engine.
1973/90 Passenger Cars/Trucks/Broncos & Econolines (I didn't look after 1990).
302 connecting rods bolts are also the same: Passenger Car/Truck/Bronco & Econoline.
#10
because you sold parts for 35 years, does NOT make you the god of all things Ford. It just means you looked up and sold parts.
Uh huh...you don't have a clue.
How much real world experience do you have?
How many engines have you built?
How many cars or trucks have you built?
How much of your own work do you do?
I would have to bet most of the answers are ZERO!!
WRONG! I've owned over 300 vehicles since 1956 and worked on many of them.
Upper pic: 6200 302 rod applications from 1980/89 car parts catalog: E8AZ-6200-A
Lower Pic: 6200 302 rod applications from 1980/89 light truck parts catalog: E8AZ-6200-A r/b (replaced by) FOAZ-6200-A
So, you aren't arguing with me, you're arguing with FoMoCo since I'm just passing the info along.
Probably the only thing we agree on, is the Green Bay Packers.
#11
I'll give you the credit for the vehicles you've owned and worked on. What bothers me is that we both know there are errors and missed information in those books. When somebody says something that they can prove to be true (such as different rod bolts used), you go to the books, show part numbers and it seems like you are saying those books are the bibles. They are not, and merely a good reference to what was probably used. The only thing I have a problem with you is just that. Like I said, we both know there are mistakes and unknowns in those.
Sorry if I came off cross before, but this time it really bothered me when I knew exactly what i was talking about. I don't care what the books say about rod bolts because I know there was more than one style used.
Sorry if I came off cross before, but this time it really bothered me when I knew exactly what i was talking about. I don't care what the books say about rod bolts because I know there was more than one style used.
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I'll give you the credit for the vehicles you've owned and worked on. What bothers me is that we both know there are errors and missed information in those books. When somebody says something that they can prove to be true (such as different rod bolts used), you go to the books, show part numbers and it seems like you are saying those books are the bibles. They are not, and merely a good reference to what was probably used. The only thing I have a problem with you is just that. Like I said, we both know there are mistakes and unknowns in those.
Sorry if I came off cross before, but this time it really bothered me when I knew exactly what i was talking about. I don't care what the books say about rod bolts because I know there was more than one style used.
Not a problem, after waiting on mechanics for 35 years, I'm "battle hardened" and don't hold a grudge.
Sorry if I came off cross before, but this time it really bothered me when I knew exactly what i was talking about. I don't care what the books say about rod bolts because I know there was more than one style used.
Not a problem, after waiting on mechanics for 35 years, I'm "battle hardened" and don't hold a grudge.
The thing is, Ford parts catalogs were updated at least twice a year, the 1980/89 car & truck parts catalogs were introduced in September 1979, the final editions were 3/1994 for both.
So, any errors were (should have been) corrected long ago. We (parts guys and gals) could call an 800 number, talk to a real person, list the page number and the error.
Chris (ctubutis), moderator of this forum is a personal friend, has stayed at my home twice, so he can tell you what a SOB & PITA I can be.
He said to me once "You're harder to get along with in person than you are on FTE!"
#15
hi...
I have joined this forum because I am trying to confirm the identification of a New Old Stock part that I have acquired and this is one of only a few places on the web where I can find any reference to it...
the part # is FOAZ-6200-A
is it appropriate to post a photo of what I have to see if someone can confirm that it is the correct part?...(I don't want to break forum protocol and hope that I haven't by posting just this introductory question...)
thanks...Jim
I have joined this forum because I am trying to confirm the identification of a New Old Stock part that I have acquired and this is one of only a few places on the web where I can find any reference to it...
the part # is FOAZ-6200-A
is it appropriate to post a photo of what I have to see if someone can confirm that it is the correct part?...(I don't want to break forum protocol and hope that I haven't by posting just this introductory question...)
thanks...Jim