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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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Plugging in ?

Well last night the temp dropped below -18f and this morning the oil temp and coolant temp after about 2 minutes of running was 2f.... Truck started but this time it didn't crank with much vigor....and considering I'm in the middle of nowhere I don't want to push fate.... I installed the heater plug recently but never used it... This will be my first time so have question... Can I leave the truck plugged in all night? Will I awaken to a charred mess?... Using a new 12gauge extension will this be enough.... Temps were now is 6f and expected to drop well below zero again tonight..... Thoughts and opinions
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 05:05 PM
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Yes you can leave it plugged in all night but you wouldn't kill your power bill as bad and you would have virtually the same effect if you just plugged it in 3 hours before you started her up.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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The heater may be plugged in all night. I have done this several times, but in reality 3-4hrs is all that is needed. Remember the block heater is like having a coffee maker on all night (1150 watts I believe) so your meter will be spinning a little faster. Mine at 10* for 4hrs shows a water temp of 80-100*f and oil temps just a little lower. Keep in mind you are only warming a fraction of oil and coolant. As far as cord I bought a thick one lol Dont remember size or amp rating. O block heater draws about 10amps IIRC.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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I wish I could but I usually get up shower and go up here....also can't seem to find a timer that can go outside and handle the wattage...
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 05:14 PM
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I leave mine pluged in all night , when temps in low 20s water and oil 110 or so when i start it then drops to low 90s
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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12 gauge is more than sufficient - assuming you are running something less than 100'.

Your truck will be much happier- so will you because there will be heat a lot earlier.

-mike
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 06:25 PM
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Example of how warm your block heater gets the water:

One morning I plugged the block heater in. My Scangauge read 39 degrees.

1 hour later it was 80 degrees.

2 hours later was 94 degrees.

3 hours later it was 103 degrees.

4 hours later it was 110 degrees.

5 hours later it was 116 degrees.

Yes, 39 isn't that cold to start, but was interesting to see that it went from 39 to 80 in an hour.

Currently my oil temp in hour 3 is 77 degrees. It was 40 at starting point.

Oil temp after 4 hours was 91 degrees.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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You can buy a timer from home depot , they go outside and will handle the power no problem for @ $20
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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With temps that low I would also want to keep my batteries warm & fully charged. I use a battery tender keeps the batteries fully charged. This is the one I use, I just purchased a second one for my tractor.
Amazon.com: Battery Tender 022-0150-DL-WH Waterproof 800 12V Battery Charger: Automotive
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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What shape are the batteries in?

What oil are you using?

Realistically, you are looking at 5w40synth.

If you are bold, 0w-30, or 0w40 synth.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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Was at home depot today and no heavy duty timer..... Will try loews next.. As for the battery tender I keep one in the truck all the time...and plug it in at least once a week overnight....
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by amdriven2liv
Example of how warm your block heater gets the water:


Yes, 39 isn't that cold to start, but was interesting to see that it went from 39 to 80 in an hour.s.

As it gets near extreme cold, several things happen:

A) the thermal mass of the motor mean it takes longer and longer to reach "peak"

B) losses of heat rises higher and higher, with a peak heat well below what you are seeing in the range of temps the OP is seeing (-18F)

C) Block heater is a tiny 600 watt job

D) Block heater does nothing for batteries --- who lose potency fast.

E) Dino oil tend to have pretty high "pour points" and congeal to a solid goo


Think given his conditions --- extreme ---

Batteries, cables, alternator in top shape is a must.

Block heater, yes, battery tender / slow charger, yes

Synth oil --- a must


The alternative is to do the route of just leaving the motor idling all nite, at 1.5 gallons per hour.

At -40 or below, I would do that.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedjester
Was at home depot today and no heavy duty timer..... Will try loews next.. As for the battery tender I keep one in the truck all the time...and plug it in at least once a week overnight....

I honestly would not use a timer given the amount of heating you need to do, I would just leave it plugged in all nite.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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I'm running motor craft 15w40....started right up... But didn't turn over real quick... When It fired up it went into a nice smooth idle... But when I got back in the truck from cleaning off the ice I noticed that the oil temp/coolant temp
Was 2f .... But I have to say not sure if it's the new flash the truck went right into a smooth idle.... No knocking...
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 09:08 PM
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At your temps, I would go synth 5w-40.

See my comment re Petrocanada Duron-E synthetic...
 
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