210 + Mileage observations.
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210 + Mileage observations.
Ive had the 210 on for about 2 weeks now. I made a 450km round trip (mostly highway) last friday. About 75% the trip I was in 4x4, temp was -20c and cruised at 110km/70mph at 2000rpm.
The truck tells me 11lt/100km, or 19.5mpg. Did not hand calc.
Today I made the same trip only this time I was only in 4x4 for about 20kms total. same temp, speed. I also idled at the airport for 15mins before heading back home. The LOM hit 20.0mpg (still 11lt/100km). Only thing different is I put in the stainless winter grill inserts. Also not hand calc'd.
When I traveled home from Van after buying the truck (1250km) The highest I got was about 14-15mpg and dropped 1 or 2 during regen.
A very noticable and welcomed difference!
The truck tells me 11lt/100km, or 19.5mpg. Did not hand calc.
Today I made the same trip only this time I was only in 4x4 for about 20kms total. same temp, speed. I also idled at the airport for 15mins before heading back home. The LOM hit 20.0mpg (still 11lt/100km). Only thing different is I put in the stainless winter grill inserts. Also not hand calc'd.
When I traveled home from Van after buying the truck (1250km) The highest I got was about 14-15mpg and dropped 1 or 2 during regen.
A very noticable and welcomed difference!
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I don't want to bust your bubble.. but the LOM is completely inaccurate when running tuned. that 19.5 is probably more like 15 in real mileage.
Texas450 was getting almost 25 on the LOM but in reality (hand calc) is more like 14. (tho up from 10..)
Sam
Texas450 was getting almost 25 on the LOM but in reality (hand calc) is more like 14. (tho up from 10..)
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Ya im aware of the LOMs over compensating, but I know how much the truck would burn in fuel on this trip and its significantly less than before the delete/tune.
Truck is saying its about 5mpg better which like you all i highly doubt but id put my money on a good 2-3mpg better.
Truck is saying its about 5mpg better which like you all i highly doubt but id put my money on a good 2-3mpg better.
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Ive had the 210 on for about 2 weeks now. I made a 450km round trip (mostly highway) last friday. About 75% the trip I was in 4x4, temp was -20c and cruised at 110km/70mph at 2000rpm.
The truck tells me 11lt/100km, or 19.5mpg. Did not hand calc.
Today I made the same trip only this time I was only in 4x4 for about 20kms total. same temp, speed. I also idled at the airport for 15mins before heading back home. The LOM hit 20.0mpg (still 11lt/100km). Only thing different is I put in the stainless winter grill inserts. Also not hand calc'd.
The truck tells me 11lt/100km, or 19.5mpg. Did not hand calc.
Today I made the same trip only this time I was only in 4x4 for about 20kms total. same temp, speed. I also idled at the airport for 15mins before heading back home. The LOM hit 20.0mpg (still 11lt/100km). Only thing different is I put in the stainless winter grill inserts. Also not hand calc'd.
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Ive had the 210 on for about 2 weeks now. I made a 450km round trip (mostly highway) last friday. About 75% the trip I was in 4x4, temp was -20c and cruised at 110km/70mph at 2000rpm.
The truck tells me 11lt/100km, or 19.5mpg. Did not hand calc.
Today I made the same trip only this time I was only in 4x4 for about 20kms total. same temp, speed. I also idled at the airport for 15mins before heading back home. The LOM hit 20.0mpg (still 11lt/100km). Only thing different is I put in the stainless winter grill inserts. Also not hand calc'd.
When I traveled home from Van after buying the truck (1250km) The highest I got was about 14-15mpg and dropped 1 or 2 during regen.
A very noticable and welcomed difference!
The truck tells me 11lt/100km, or 19.5mpg. Did not hand calc.
Today I made the same trip only this time I was only in 4x4 for about 20kms total. same temp, speed. I also idled at the airport for 15mins before heading back home. The LOM hit 20.0mpg (still 11lt/100km). Only thing different is I put in the stainless winter grill inserts. Also not hand calc'd.
When I traveled home from Van after buying the truck (1250km) The highest I got was about 14-15mpg and dropped 1 or 2 during regen.
A very noticable and welcomed difference!
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Stanley,
I have 3.73, which is perfect I find. Yes I have the spartan. And yes, I did change the oil the next day after the dpf/doc delete.
I used Rotella T6 syn, 5w-40. I checked oil yesterday and it was still fairly clear, a little grayish maybe....a far cry from pitch black. I only have 54,000kms on it but I feel its worth it if the warranty is denied, the truck is much happier without that crap on it.
I have 3.73, which is perfect I find. Yes I have the spartan. And yes, I did change the oil the next day after the dpf/doc delete.
I used Rotella T6 syn, 5w-40. I checked oil yesterday and it was still fairly clear, a little grayish maybe....a far cry from pitch black. I only have 54,000kms on it but I feel its worth it if the warranty is denied, the truck is much happier without that crap on it.
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Thanks, I'm thinking hard about the tuner and about changing to a 3.73 axle. i pulled my 5er for over a year with my previous truck and it had a 3.73. i got such a good buy on the 08 that I went ahead and bought it thinking I could change the differential out, and I still think I will.
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No prob. Id think real hard on the tuner, and from reading the owners manual it would only void warranty if the issue was caused by the tuner itself...
It looks like your truck is a 2wd? Not sure what a shop charges for a gear swap nowadays but that also would be of help in the mileage department!
It looks like your truck is a 2wd? Not sure what a shop charges for a gear swap nowadays but that also would be of help in the mileage department!
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Stanley I would think real hard about the tuner as well. Is your warranty worth risking? I agree the tuner has its pros but along with that are cons. If you maintain good service the DPF is nothing to fear. The tuner I think screws with the LOM on the dash and definitely gives you a false reading, I think that is something Spartan does to the tune to make you think you are getting better MPG.
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Stanley I would think real hard about the tuner as well. Is your warranty worth risking? I agree the tuner has its pros but along with that are cons. If you maintain good service the DPF is nothing to fear. The tuner I think screws with the LOM on the dash and definitely gives you a false reading, I think that is something Spartan does to the tune to make you think you are getting better MPG.
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If/when you do do the DOC/DPF delete, you'll wish you did it sooner. It'll be like a new truck all over again. You don't need the high HP tunes to see benefits. I know you tow a lot, so you probably won't want the big tunes anyway. The 210 HP tune is great for pretty much anything and is a good "all around" tune. BTW - Spartan has DPF on tunes too. Last thought for you...... most of the problems folks have with these trucks has to do w/ the emissions stuff, so you get rid of it and you'll have less problems/worries. I know it's a big decision to make. I balked at it for a long time. About a year and a half ago, my truck began a regen and then went into "limp mode". I said to myself " never again" and did the delete. Truck has been running like a top since.
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Stanley I would think real hard about the tuner as well. Is your warranty worth risking? I agree the tuner has its pros but along with that are cons. If you maintain good service the DPF is nothing to fear. The tuner I think screws with the LOM on the dash and definitely gives you a false reading, I think that is something Spartan does to the tune to make you think you are getting better MPG.
STM
By the way the best milage Ive ever gotten is 18.5 hand calc on the 250 tune doing 72-75 all flat highway.
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