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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 03:20 PM
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If you select a proper turbo for the 2.3, it will spool at a very low RPM. Even lower if you find a VGT turbo.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 04:03 PM
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I did measurments. If sprinter 5-cyl engine fits aero, 5.0OHV will fit too.. with some welding may be)))
My thought was to build a spacer between the frame and engine cradle to gain some room and some lift at the same time. Like an inch or so
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 09:01 AM
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My thought was to build a spacer between the frame and engine cradle to gain some room and some lift at the same time. Like an inch or so
I saw OM906LA (sold as MB series in USA by Detroit Diesel) in suburban with alisson tranny. so... there are mid size diesel engine on truck JYs. Seems to me with a lot of room under the hood you may use small cummins ore cat engine up to 6L. The only problem - additional room for bigeer intercooler.

With 601 it was a problem. after intercooler was installed it was a real pain with A/C condencer
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MFJ
For the application, torque is required. Torque is a measurement of force. Horsepower is how fast the work gets done. A tractor and a motorcycle can both have 100 hp. The difference is how fast the work gets done.

How well would your Aerostar get moving if you had to wait for the turbo 2.3 to spool up, then shift pretty often to keep it in its power range? The 4.0 has torque down low, and isn't working as hard to make what power it does. A V8 would be even better, more torque and less stress on the engine.

I have a '99 Sable with the 200 hp engine. I also have a '96 Windstar with a 200 hp engine, but more torque. If I got the weights pretty similar (load down the Sable), the Windstar would be quicker off the line. On the Sable, you have to wait till about 3500 rpm for it to get into the power band, and then it takes off.

More extreme is the 300 straight six in my dad's F150. It can chirp the tires off the line, but runs out of steam at 55-60 mph.
Well considering that the 2.3L Turbo was designed to get behemoths like the Thunderbirds off the line quickly, it is designed to spool fast. The stock Turbo spins up quickly, but runs out of steam at higher RPM. Aftermarket turbos can spool faster, depending on their A/R ratio.

Considering how much space you would get under the hood with the 4cylinder turbo and the fact that you cut your engine weight so dramatically. I'm serious, those 2.3L turbos are easily upgraded into V8 killers. They are also known to be extremely reliable. They are designed to take boost, you get a 300 rwhp 2.3L Turbo motor that spools up quickly, it will easily outrun V6 and V8 regardless of their torque. Just to give an example, a stock 4.0L, which has a lot of torque produces a peak troque of 220 ft.lbs at 3800 RPM. A 300 hp 2.3L will produce about 305 ft.lbs at about the same RPM.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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Well considering that the 2.3L Turbo was designed to get behemoths like the Thunderbirds off the line quickly, it is designed to spool fast. The stock Turbo spins up quickly, but runs out of steam at higher RPM. Aftermarket turbos can spool faster, depending on their A/R ratio.

Considering how much space you would get under the hood with the 4cylinder turbo and the fact that you cut your engine weight so dramatically. I'm serious, those 2.3L turbos are easily upgraded into V8 killers. They are also known to be extremely reliable. They are designed to take boost, you get a 300 rwhp 2.3L Turbo motor that spools up quickly, it will easily outrun V6 and V8 regardless of their torque. Just to give an example, a stock 4.0L, which has a lot of torque produces a peak troque of 220 ft.lbs at 3800 RPM. A 300 hp 2.3L will produce about 305 ft.lbs at about the same RPM.
You forget about turbo delay

0.5-1 sec of delay in mud is critical! You wanna ride on terrain. so you need engine with low end torq. You need something about 5.0 OHV ore diesel from small truck.

Pay attention on Isudzu Elf engine. 4.3 Turbo, four cyl in line, OHV, with 5 st tranny! both EDC and Injection pump versions were available (with Denso inj, pump). Easy to find on Japanese used parts sites.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 05:29 PM
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You would think, now that the 4.0L is in the Mustang (SOHC version) that there would be a stoker kit and bigger pistons and hot cam's and all that jaz. I've got 2 spare 4.0L's and if there were kits like that I'd just build one up.
 
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There are 4.0 stroker kits. Most of the 4.0 performance stuff is only for the SOHC application.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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Yeah, take a look at the Morena engine stuff, lots of 4.0L parts. Just so you know, the 4.0L in the 'Stang is not the same 4.0L thats in an Aerostar.
 
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