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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 02:42 AM
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the guy wants 200 and its running but it doesnt have a carb.
I also found 2 more in my father inlaws truck and a friends.
Should I pm you with pictures???
I dont want to HIGHJACK YOUR THREAD
 
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 09:00 AM
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$200 is not a bad price for the engine as long as it's complete. You'll need a Holley 1904 carb for it, which are not hard to find. I have a few of them, but they need to be rebuilt. It would be best if you can hook up a battery to it and turn it over. Maybe even do a quick compression check, but that might be hard to do without the carb in place.

You can PM me pictures and I'll tell you what I think.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 51PanelMan
In case anyone is keeping score at home, the truck was taken to the shop that rebuilt the carbs in hopes of them diagnosing the issue. It may be carb related or it may be engine related. It's been there for about a month now with no news. I told them not to rush on it since I want to make room for it in the garage before it comes back.
Well that's probably for the best for now given your time and space constraints. By the way, how busy are you early next month? I still need to get over the hill and check out your place.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 06:53 PM
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215s are great engines. I was getting 17 mpg out of mine the other day. They have a lot of torque. I bought a complete running 215 with a bunch of extra parts on ebay for 36 bucks!!
 
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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 12:22 PM
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Here's an update.

Brought the truck home last week from the shop.




I'm not impressed with the shop. They couldn't even start the truck and blamed it on the engine. They told me that they had spark and fuel. I also asked them to check out the carbs that they rebuilt and also tell me what size jets were inside, but they didn't do that as I asked. Not very happy with them.

Yesterday I started to disassemble the engine. I've decided to get it rebuilt. Hopefully, the engine disassembly will reveal something. If not, then I'll have a rebuilt engine and if the problem persists, then I'll know for sure that it's the carbs. I know that this is a more expensive and drastic way to find out if the carbs are bad, but I'm past the point of no return. I'll have the engine back, hopefully, in 4-6 weeks after I drop it off, depending on parts.



 
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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 12:44 PM
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The shop sounds like losers. Didn't you have a problem with them breaking glass bowls too?

If the head is still on, run a compression test just for benchmarking.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 01:02 PM
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The shop sounds like losers. Didn't you have a problem with them breaking glass bowls too?

If the head is still on, run a compression test just for benchmarking.
Yup, that's the same shop. They are highly recommended. I guess if it's not an out of the box Holley carb, they can't work on it.

The head is still on, but all of the electrical components and wiring have been disconnected.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 01:08 PM
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Gee...your post reads like an ad for Ace Fuel systems!!
 
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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 01:12 PM
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Gee...your post reads like an ad for Ace Fuel systems!!
I hope this thread comes up if a search for them is done on the internet.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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I'm with Ross, I think a baseline compression test would be great info. Easy enough to bolt the starter back on and run a couple of wires.

Good luck
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 01:11 PM
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Delivered that disassembled engine and components to the machine shop on Wednesday. Both the shop and I couldn't find anything wrong with the internal components based on a viusal inspection. The cylinder walls are still smooth and have no visible cracks. The lobes on the cam aren't flattened and look good. The rings on all pistons are still intact and good. Not a lot of wear on the pistons either. There was minor scorching on the camshaft, but nothing major. The head and valves looked ok. The rocker lifters and rods are good, and so is the rocker arm assembly. The motor did not appear to have been rebuilt or bored.

However, the machine shop called me this morning and said that the crankshaft is cracked. Luckily, I have one that's already out and another one in a parts motor. Both of them could very well be cracked as well. Won't know until they magnaflux them.

I should have stripped another parts motor completely of its internal parts, but I dumped it a few weeks ago. Who knew......
 
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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Yowza! Good thing you found that, but I can't believe that's what caused the backfiring etc., unless it was completely cracked in half and the two halves were turning "independently"?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 04:07 PM
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^I think he's just sort of "digging up the bones in his back yard". That's always a bad way to find problems, because you're already not in the happiest mood that you are having to look in the first place, finding real issues just compounds the emotion.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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Couldn't find the crankshaft that I thought I had. I've had it for years and I think that I dumped it about a month ago. It also could have been out of an early 60s 262, which is different.

Tomorrow I plan on disassembling a 215, which has a cracked block in the rear mounting area, that is at my parents' house. Hopefully, the crank inside is good, but won't know until it's magnafluxed.

I'm still kicking myself in the a$$ for not internally disassembling another 215 parts motor (from a 53) before I dumped it several weeks ago.

This always happens whenever I need a part. That's why I don't like to throw anything away. This is a perfect example of Murphy's Law!
 
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 06:09 PM
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Is a 223 crank interchangeable?

Why not bore the snot out of it, and if the 223 had a bigger stroke, throw that in too. Make it into a 250 c.i. torque monster!
 
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