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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 09:21 AM
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Ford Taurus Wierd Problem

The little women has a 1999 Ford Taurus. In the summer when it's warm the dome light will not come on when you open the doors. Now that it is cold outside the dome light comes on when you open the doors. Is this the wierdest things or what? Does anyone have any ideas as to what it could be? Thanks for the help.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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The dome lamp switch(es) are sticky. It usually happens the other way around, though. (Works in summer and doesn't work in winter).
The switch is in the door latch and can be tricky to replace. You can try cleaning and lubing it.
Working through the latch opening, flood the latch with solvent like brake cleaner, using the extension tube to get into the nooks and crannies. Then spray liberally with WD-40. Open and close the door 10-20 times to exercise the switch.
This will usually free up the switch. If not, you need to dig into the door and replace the switch.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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It's not just one door, it's all of them. You can open any door in the summer, and no dome light. Now, you can open any door, and the light comes on. Is there a relay or something somewhere?
 
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 10:34 AM
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I'm pretty sure there is no relay. IIRC, all of the switching is done by the GEM module.
Will the light work with the manual switch on the i/p dimmer control?
 
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by lsrx101
Will the light work with the manual switch on the i/p dimmer control?
She isn't home right now, but I believe the dome light would not work at all in the summer, even with the manual switch.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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Heat expansion during warm weather is making the dome light lose ground somehow, pull the cover and tighten the ground screw, bet it comes on all the time after that.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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Heat expansion during warm weather is making the dome light lose ground somehow, pull the cover and tighten the ground screw, bet it comes on all the time after that.
Which ground wires are you refering to, up where the bulb is? I called the dealership about a GEM Module, and they want a fortune for one. I will check the ground wires first. Thanks
 
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 03:07 PM
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Theres a screw hold in the ground wire behind the plastic housing, try tightening it. Check the hot lead too. The contacts at the bulb may be deformed or loose.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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I just took it out. The two lights on the side of the dome light always work when you turn them on. I just noticed that when you turn on the parking lights, the dash lights are sometimes slow to come on, other times they come right on. I hate to have to buy a new GEM, they wanted over 400 bucks for a new one.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Look around online for a rebuilt one. The dealerships want way too much for stuff like that, and there are companies online that specialize in rebuilt electronics like that.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Old93junk
Heat expansion during warm weather is making the dome light lose ground somehow, pull the cover and tighten the ground screw, bet it comes on all the time after that.
That was gonna be my next suggestion.

Keep in mind that if you replace the GEM module, it may need to be programmed to the car using a scan tool.
I don't see any harm in a used GEM. I'm not usually a fan of used electrical parts, but they don't fail often.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 09:18 AM
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If you look to the right side of the pic, you will see some relays. Just under where it says "Read Owners Manual." There is a relay the says "Interior lamp relay". What would that relay be for? It's the second one down, on the left side. I think I am going to replace it. If you use the zoom feature at the bottom of the pic, you can see it better.

 
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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Well, I replaced that relay today. Still the same. I figured it was worth a shot. I'm not sure if we are going to replace the GEM Module or not. I don't think it's a ground, because the map lights on the side of the dome light work just fine, and I would think they have the same ground. I found a Ford Dealer who will sell me the Module for 250 bucks shipped. I called the local dealer, and they want 99 bucks to program it. I don't know much about the GEM Module. Is it going to get worse, and leave her stranded somewhere? Will it stay the same? I don't know.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 11:58 PM
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Well, I replaced that relay today. Still the same. I figured it was worth a shot. I'm not sure if we are going to replace the GEM Module or not. I don't think it's a ground, because the map lights on the side of the dome light work just fine, and I would think they have the same ground. I found a Ford Dealer who will sell me the Module for 250 bucks shipped. I called the local dealer, and they want 99 bucks to program it. I don't know much about the GEM Module. Is it going to get worse, and leave her stranded somewhere? Will it stay the same? I don't know.
The GEM (Generic Electronic Module) controls interior lighting, some external lighting, battery saver and a some other misc. circuits on the car. There's nothing that will leave your lady stranded.
I wouldn't spend $300 to replace it unless you can verify it is truly at fault. I think an EVTM and a test light would be money much better spent if you can read a wiring diagram and have a bit of time. .
1998 Ford Taurus Sable EVTM Factory Manual LOOK! - eBay (item 360318930870 end time Jan-11-11 09:48:58 PST)
 
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 12:25 AM
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Thanks for the help. I just clicked on the Ebay link and bought the manual. I will look at it and see what I can figure out. I would hate to replace the GEM Module and it still did it.
 
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