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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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Question engine info/help

i bought an engine from a guy in my college class who said it was rebuilt about 4 years ago but sat in his garage since the rebuild. i'm getting the college to put the motor in but it's missing the distributor. the man at the parts store asked if i need an one vac. or a dual vac., i don't know. i know its a '68 302 from a Fairlane/Torino. any info on this year of engine would help. also, in your opinion, would you rebuild a 351m or a 302 for for power and torque and which would be cheaper. need help asap!
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 11:51 PM
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You can get a distributor with an electronic set up through these guys:

Performance Distributors - High Performance and Racing Ignition Systems

Single or dual vacuum? Points maybe... beats me. You don't want points, you want to upgrade.

Rebuild a 351m or 302 for power or torque....

Forget the 351m, you need to convert that to a 400 and do a pretty good rebuild to make real power. A 302 can make power, but it will be at higher and higher revs the more you do to it. (same as most engines)

302 would be cheaper to work on and build up.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 06:47 AM
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Single vac is for vacuum advance, dual vacuum provides for retard funtion during starting. Not needed, though either one will fit. A 68 would have had points, but you could go with a Petronics replacement, an electronic setup, Ford Duraspark from say a 77 Bronco, etc. The one posted above is a nice setup. Your choice.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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thanks for your help. the part guy asked if i need steel gears or iron gears, how do i find out which one i need.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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Cast iron gear. They went to steel with roller engines.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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ok, i found out the motor that was in my truck is a 351w. i bought a 302 for my truck and in the process of getting the school to put it in. with the 351w, what would you do to it to make it have some power (500?) and the cheapest way. Stroke it, better heads, over bore...? what are your ideas if you had around $1,500.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dogstar
with the 351w, what would you do to it to make it have some power (500?). Stroke it, better heads, over bore...?
Yes... meaning all of the above plus an intake, full exhaust system, and upgraded fuel system, and then you'll need a transmission and rear end to handle the power.

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and the cheapest way
There is no cheap way to 500hp.

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what are your ideas if you had around $1,500.
Forgetaboutit until you have about $10 G to spend.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 04:18 PM
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i can get 400 hp for $2,000 right now.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 04:08 PM
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Getting one horsepower per cubic inch is relatively reasonable. Anything more gets progressively more expensive per horsepower and less dependable.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 06:57 PM
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If that is an original '68 4v 302 motor, those are some good heads.


Motors are cheap! Every thing you need to survive at that power level is expensive!
 
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The rods are the weak point. Get a good set of H or I beam rods. KB hyperutectic pistons work great if you use a zero gap top ring that is opened wide to accomidate the heat. Then the piston wont crack. A decent cam and RPM airgap intake. Either port your heads and use chevy sized valves, and really open up the exhaust port. Or Ebay a set of some aftermarket heads. 500 is possible if you do the assembly yourself. Don't forget to balance the whole deal. Just buy smart and don't over cam it.
 
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