Program ended over a year ago--you still crying about it?

I got $4500 credit for a vehicle I couldn't get $500 for. Stupid program, but when they hand out money, I get in line.

I suggest you find something current or destined for the near future to be upset about vs. something that is over and done with.

 

Well we have some people in Washington that should go in the crusher with the cars.

The throw it away and buy new instead of fix and repair the old will be the death of this country.

Saw a nice piece on the Model A truck today 1927 thru 1932.
20 MPG average

Wanna guess what the nation average car MPG is today in 2010?
22 MPG

A whole 2 MPG increase in 83 years.

And that was a Model A pickup against the auto fleet of today.

Done with, the same people that came up with that are still in Washington.
Let's trash a mostly USA made vehicle and replace it with one that is made mostly in other countries so the trade deficit can grow even faster.

You want something to cry about,

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Notice the debt per citizen at 44,354 dollars or the debt per taxpayer at 124,918 dollars.
Then again you could look at the "total liabilities per tax payer" down in the bottom right and be astounded at the 1,010,027 dollars each tax payer owes.

And if you look at those numbers next week, they will both be much larger.

They hand out money, and we have to pay it back.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Now go write out your check to the government for 1,010,027 dollars and tell us how great that deal was.

I am not attacking you for participating in the program.
But I am pointing a finger at the people that came up with the program and implementing it along with many others.

Remember they are also the ones that made air quality standards so high that the companies moved to countries with no air quality standards, and took the jobs over there with them.
And that job may have been one that someone you know used to have.

Funny thing though, there is only one atmosphere.
So moving from a country that puts 10 tons of pollutants into the air to a country that puts 100 tons in the air at the same plant with no air quality control is an EPA air quality joke.

Not in my back yard, right.

Now you want the best part...
Click on the world bebt clock and look how the countries stack up.

Best two on the chart,
China and Russia

 

Agree 100%.
I don't blame individuals for taking advantage of it I just don't like tax dollars wasted.
In fact I HATE all waste, I'm all for recycling, wind power, solar power etc. WHEN IT MAKES SENSE!
The government EASILY waste half of the money they take in, maybe more.

I'll probably gripe about it a year from now, a decade after that and for the rest of my life allong with all of the other stupid, wastefull government programs.

 

i just died a little inside, she sounded mint.

 

It fought for life valiantly.......

 

WTF ¿WHY? I would have bought that hell it sounded like it had a lot of life left. The selling vs clunking it may not have been as much but there is still many people out there who appreciate them.

 

i know i sure would have apprieciated having it.....not like their making more of these things.....

 

because the government classified all old vehicles as hard on fuel economy and the environment while still driven on the road.
they thought by given away 4 grand for the old jalopies,they would be helping things.

why destroy the engines?
so no one else would run it again.making the 4 grand they just payed for doing so pointless otherwise.

of course we know,we are the ones who need to pay them,that $ back lol.
and of course we also know it did no good,because more resources and pollutants were put into the atmosphere from building the new vehicle that replaced it.

we need someone with some common sense.
common sense says rather than do this plan,
why not pay garages for a "complete engine tune up".

imagine instead of seeing this thread we saw:
"i just received my new ip/injectors air cleaner,fuel filter,and diesel timing set all installed at the garage and have my other free tune up check where they set my pop pressure again at 10k miles and retime the engine"

everyone would have won.including mother earth.
and it would have cost less........but we also know that's not the governments way either.

 

Yes putting all those mechanics to work would really have been a shame.


What I really would like to know, you have a car old enough that getting 4500 under C4C was an incentive to buy a new car.
So the 4500 is your down payment.

Now you have to cover the car with full coverage insurance, make payments and pay higher property taxes on the new car.

I wonder how many of them have been reposed because the owner could not afford all of that, and now they have an even worse car or none at all?

Yep I drive a 500 dollar car, but the gov is giving me 4500 for it so I am going to buy a new 20,000 dollar car.

Makes just as much sense as the banks making a 200,000 dollar home loan to someone makeing 25,000 a year and wondering why they can't make the payments.

 

idiocracy here we come.................... OUCH MY *****!

 

thats a good point too Dave.
a quick google brings up a little article back in Jan.right after.
im sure by now there's been some good studies and stats on repo % on cash for clunkers.i didn't keep going to look.but here's a good little read right after the program.
Many cash-for-clunkers buyers have higher repo, late payment rates - Drive On: A conversation about the cars and trucks we drive - USATODAY.com

and exactly.
its the same thing as the banks looking the other way by approving mortgages they knew homeowners couldn't make.
as if the economy going south isn't bad enough.the gov repeats the same thing in the auto industry too.......that'll fix it! lmao

 

Just a quick note I was told by, if I rember right, a salesman that the $4500 from C4C you had to claim on your income taxes, talk about twisting the knife alittle.