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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Ok so just weird that that would happen and head gasket would leak both on the same day.. as far as that goes then where would u assume the leak of coolant and atf would start?
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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In the trans fluid cooler in the radiator.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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Ok thanks guy for all the info! Ill replace the rad and would flushing the tranny be a good idea or just drain and fill? Also now that I think about it the engine has been running really quite like it sounds like a big gasser almost at idle, could this be because the atf in the coolant making it thicker?
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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What location did you drain the coolant from when doing the system cleaning.....

How many gallons of coolant/water did you install.........8

If the head gasket is leaking coolant into the cylinder it will smoke and tick!!!!

Does the engine seem to lockup on the first start of the day or any other time after sitting.

You have a ton of possible faults here....... we need to pick one and work on it until fixed......

There is no way all the coolant would go into and all stay in the trans....... so check for a massive leak at the trans vent on top, check your trans dipstick too for color and consistancy.

A thin sheen of oily substance in the rad is not abnormal........major black gobs of oil is.

Put up a signature with truck info please........
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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I drained from the drain plug then flushed it with water, it was about 4 gallons of premixed fleet charge, it only smokes at startup, has always somewhat ticked, it has been starting harder but I assume it was because of the single digit temperature
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 10:07 PM
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Tranny fluid is like a salmon or peach color and looks a little runny , its the E4OD.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 10:31 PM
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Tranny fluid is like a salmon or peach color and looks a little runny , its the E4OD.
Ok, now I'm stumped. Why do you think coolant got into your tranny? Was it getting fuller?
To see if coolant got into your tranny fluid, touch your tongue to the dipstick. If it has coolant in it, it will be sweet, or have a sweet taste. (No, I don't mean drink it, just a slight drop, not enough to even hurt you will be enough)

As cold as it is getting, metals do contract more, making it possible for leaks to get bigger as the metals contract away from each other. Even steel and cast iron expand and contract at slightly different rates, I can't remember which is slower and faster, but, it might be enough that the heads would be able to microscopically pull away from the block because the steel head bolts contracted and shrank slightly slower, creating a slightly bigger gap. If it happens repeatedly, whatever leak you did have might get worse.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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I'm just guessing its in the atf, I checked it before (week ago) and it was a nice red. Just confused on where my coolant is going...
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 10:46 PM
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sounds like some is going into the tranny, and some is being burned......
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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ok so ill wait till the weather warms then see if the oil leak stops, now could the cold weather also cause the engine to sound very quite at a warm idle?
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 10:54 PM
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It's about the worse possible news as far as ANY coolant in any oil-containing area. Coolant tends to displace the oil and stick to the metal parts better, and coolant sure ain't as good of a lubricant. It is a bear to get out of all the clutch packs, torque converter, etc., and if there's any left in there for any length of time, it will destroy the tranny. I would suggest a new radiator immediately, then hauling it to a tranny shop and have them professionally flush it (Make sure you tell them it has coolant in it. They can add chemicals to the flush to wash most of the coolant out) Then, I would worry about the head gasket.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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Ok I will go taste my atf and tell u the results... one minute, what does atf taste like?
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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Didn't taste very sweet. Almost like a burnt taste
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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It should have no taste that is similar to sweet. Just kind of a bland, oily taste. Kinda like fresh vegetable oil like you use in a kitchen. Hasn't really got a describable taste of its own.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 11:19 PM
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If there is no sweet taste, that's probably not where your coolant is going. Instead, your tranny has it's own issues such as a clutch pack or something going out.
Coolant tastes sweet. Taste a drop of clean coolant sometime, and you can then touch your tongue to your engine oil to see if the taste is similar.
 
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