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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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truck running bad put on computer

changed o2 senser on 2003 ford expedition xlt and it still saying they are bad and running bad still what next computer says bad o2 sensor bank 1 & bank 2 Sensor 1 changed both same problem the codes are p2197& p2195
 
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 04:55 PM
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Those two codes mean the engine is running lean, time to check for a large vacuum leak or it's time for a new fuel filter or fuel pump.
 
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could it be any thing else
 
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by kc7702
could it be anything else
Are you asking out of wishful thinking or because you've done the testing to eliminate those as a possibility?
 
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Are you asking out of wishful thinking or because you've done the testing to eliminate those as a possibility?
I checked for vaccum leaks
 
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Originally Posted by kc7702
I checked for vaccum leaks
also 2 nnew codes P2196 and P2198 whentruck inn gear rpm drop
 
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kc7702
also 2 new codes P2196 and P2198 when truck in gear rpm drop
Judging from all the symptoms I think you have a large vacuum leak. Most likely the large PCV elbow at the rear of the intake manifold is cracked.

If the elbow suggestion doesn't pan out for you, you could just have a misfire going on. But it could also be due to any one of these:

Fuel System

* Excessive fuel pressure
* Leaking or dirty fuel injectors
* Leaking fuel pressure regulator
* Low fuel pressure or running out of fuel
* Vapor recovery system

Induction System

* Air leaks after the MAF
* Vacuum leaks
* PCV system
* Improperly seated dipstick or oil fill cap

EGR System

* Leaking EGR gasket
* Stuck EGR valve

General Engine

* Oil overfilled
* Cam timing
* Cylinder compression
* Exhaust leaks before or near the O2 sensor(s)
 
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Originally Posted by alloro
Judging from all the symptoms I think you have a large vacuum leak. Most likely the large PCV elbow at the rear of the intake manifold is cracked.

If the elbow suggestion doesn't pan out for you, you could just have a misfire going on. But it could also be due to any one of these:

Fuel System

* Excessive fuel pressure
* Leaking or dirty fuel injectors
* Leaking fuel pressure regulator
* Low fuel pressure or running out of fuel
* Vapor recovery system

Induction System

* Air leaks after the MAF
* Vacuum leaks
* PCV system
* Improperly seated dipstick or oil fill cap

EGR System

* Leaking EGR gasket
* Stuck EGR valve

General Engine

* Oil overfilled
* Cam timing
* Cylinder compression
* Exhaust leaks before or near the O2 sensor(s)
I have to say thanks alot just found the air leak and it is the large pcv elbow at the rear of the intake manifold.. Thanks again know get back there to get it off
 
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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Do you know where i can find the elbow are do i have to buy the hold hose as oone
 
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It seems like someone has posted they found it in the help parts section at an auto parts store. Otherwise Ford will sell you the whole thing, there is more than one type used so you would need to know which one you have.
 
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Originally Posted by kc7702
Do you know where i can find the elbow are do i have to buy the hold hose as one
You can order just the elbow online or check your local auto parts store for it.
dorman 46017 - Google Search
 
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