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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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Tranny issue

My 05, f250, 6.0 has a quirky issue. Every morning it won't shift unless I let off the gas (diesel) first then it will up shift, let off the gas, next shift...after about a mile or two and any time for the rest of the day and night, smooth shifting without a hitch.

I don't dare pull out into oncoming traffic cuz the truck won't respond.

Any ideas as to what might be causing this?

Thanks,

Andre'
 
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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Anybody have any thoughts on this?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 03:06 PM
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What's the milage on the truck? When was the last time you changed the trans fluid and filter?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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I bought the truck 7 months ago with 98,000 miles. At 100,000 I changed all fluids and filters so for me everything started at "0" miles if you will. I now have 107,000 miles. I know they didn't change the filter in the tranny pan but did change the filter under the front bumper. The one that looks like a toilet paper roll.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 07:33 PM
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5r110w tranny

this tranny needs to get to a specific temp before it will shift.warm it up a litttle more before you drive it,
 
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 07:34 PM
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Mine does the same thing. I consider it normal. I've got 77k miles.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 10:50 PM
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So...every car/truck ever built, you can start up first thing and drive away and Ford designs their trans to require a "warm up" before you drive off???? Oh, and the diesels shouldn't idel either...
 
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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you check the fluid level?
i got a mazda car that does the same when the weather gets a bit cooler..
so maybe its fords and mazdas that build them like that..
 
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 11:54 PM
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Fluid level is fine and I live in Florida, 6:00 a.m. in the morning, it's 70 degrees, so not buying the cooler thing.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 06:40 AM
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My 5R100W has a paper filter inside the pan, yours may only have a screen but i'd still want to pull it to check things out. Checking the level of the fluid was a big deal according to the fluid change manual, took 2 people. Fluid type is also very importaint "SP". My trans shifts ok when it's cold but better when its warm. (think most transmissions are that way)
 
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by grayf250
So...every car/truck ever built, you can start up first thing and drive away and Ford designs their trans to require a "warm up" before you drive off???? Oh, and the diesels shouldn't idel either...
I don't think it is a transmission related thing. I think it is specific to the diesel. As far as I know the gas trucks with the same transmission do not do it. I haven't heard of any 6.4 owners mentioning it either, so I wonder if it was just the 6.0 programming.

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Fluid level is fine and I live in Florida, 6:00 a.m. in the morning, it's 70 degrees, so not buying the cooler thing.
Mine does it year round. I do not notice any specific oil, coolant, or tranny temp that it correlates with. It just seems to be the first two gears, for a half mile or so. It feels a little like being in Tow/Haul.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sandmanf250
this tranny needs to get to a specific temp before it will shift.warm it up a litttle more before you drive it,
I've personally tested these transmissions as cold as -35°F. They shift cold. At -35°F the shifts are a bit slow, but it shifts.

There is something wrong. I don't know what it is, it will take some diagnostics and data collection to determine what's wrong.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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some engineer or tranny expert chime in here i may be wrong, but i think i read somewheres that the torqueshift has a thermostat in it.am i wrong?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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Mine does this as well and always has when cold started for the first time of the day. Does not matter if its December or July . Letting truck warm up for a bit helps big time so I think Sandman with the thermostat comment is correct. After warm up its perfectly normal.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sandmanf250
some engineer or tranny expert chime in here i may be wrong, but i think i read somewheres that the torqueshift has a thermostat in it.am i wrong?
Yes, it has a thermostat. When the transmission is colder than 165F the cooler flow is reduced to 10% of normal. That's the only difference, less flow to the cooler.
 
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