Adding Homelink
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From: Woodstock, GA
I just found a few more threads on upgrading to the factory visor with the factory installed Lear Car2U system. It seems there are two connectors on the wire harness in the truck headliner...the visors w/o the opener use a round connector and the visors with the opener use a square...and that both exist up in the headliner? Is that right? So you need to pull down a hidden square connector for the new visor which may have switched power for the opener?
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From: Chelan, WA
Just installed the visor and there was no second connector that I could find. The standard visor with the lighted mirror and the visor with the built in garage door opener both have the same connector. The garage door opener operates whether or not the key is on......the circuit is not switched. From what I hear this is the way it is if you order it from the factory or add it later.
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From: So Cal
I've added it to both my 08 and now my 11, easy as pie - about a 5 minute install.
uses the power connecter the that vanity mirror uses, and is powered all the time.
super easy to program also.
only thing I don't understand is why its not part of the Lariet package....
uses the power connecter the that vanity mirror uses, and is powered all the time.
super easy to program also.
only thing I don't understand is why its not part of the Lariet package....
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From: Woodstock, GA
Thanks Dr. T and shadowSVT. Disappointing to hear the opener is powered all the time. Wonder why Ford did this. This means anyone can smash your window, push the button and they are in your garage, possibly in your home. All of the homelink systems in my other cars have been switched for this reason. Maybe I'll have to buy the himelnk module off ebay for $25 and wire it in myself.
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Thanks Dr. T and shadowSVT. Disappointing to hear the opener is powered all the time. Wonder why Ford did this. This means anyone can smash your window, push the button and they are in your garage, possibly in your home. All of the homelink systems in my other cars have been switched for this reason. Maybe I'll have to buy the himelnk module off ebay for $25 and wire it in myself.
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From: Woodstock, GA
When you check, can you see if your buttons light up when pushed both when the key is in and not? And of course, does the door open with the key in and not.
FWIW, my visor vanity light is powered all the time, so not sure if that is an indicator of what my turck would do with an opener.
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Looking forward to your findings. A friend of mine has the same truck I do, but hers has the opener. I opened her door and pushed the buttons on her visor and they lit up. Not sure if this means it is powered and would open a garage door if in the vicinity, but there was no key in when I did this.
When you check, can you see if your buttons light up when pushed both when the key is in and not? And of course, does the door open with the key in and not.
FWIW, my visor vanity light is powered all the time, so not sure if that is an indicator of what my turck would do with an opener.
When you check, can you see if your buttons light up when pushed both when the key is in and not? And of course, does the door open with the key in and not.
FWIW, my visor vanity light is powered all the time, so not sure if that is an indicator of what my turck would do with an opener.
Scenarios:
1) Door unlocked with key fob, key not in ignition. Opener worked.
2) Door unlocked, entered truck, locked truck with key fob. Key out of ignition. Opener worked.
3) Door unlocked, key in ignition, turned to on, turned to off, key removed and door opened. Opener worked.
4) Door unlocked, key in ignition, window opened, key removed, door opened and closed. Opener worked.
5) Door left unlocked. No key in ignition, truck left to soak for 15 minutes. Opener did NOT work.
6) Truck locked with window opened. truck left to soak 15 minutes. Opener did NOT work.
SO.... I believe there is some sort of timer used to disable power to the opener. It is 15 minutes or less in length but it did shut off power to it. Thinking back about my earlier comment. I remember coming back to the truck reaching in the window to open my bay. Didn't work, so my assumption is that the key had to be in the ignition.
Nicely done Ford.
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Analysis complete...
Scenarios:
1) Door unlocked with key fob, key not in ignition. Opener worked.
2) Door unlocked, entered truck, locked truck with key fob. Key out of ignition. Opener worked.
3) Door unlocked, key in ignition, turned to on, turned to off, key removed and door opened. Opener worked.
4) Door unlocked, key in ignition, window opened, key removed, door opened and closed. Opener worked.
5) Door left unlocked. No key in ignition, truck left to soak for 15 minutes. Opener did NOT work.
6) Truck locked with window opened. truck left to soak 15 minutes. Opener did NOT work.
SO.... I believe there is some sort of timer used to disable power to the opener. It is 15 minutes or less in length but it did shut off power to it. Thinking back about my earlier comment. I remember coming back to the truck reaching in the window to open my bay. Didn't work, so my assumption is that the key had to be in the ignition.
Nicely done Ford.
Scenarios:
1) Door unlocked with key fob, key not in ignition. Opener worked.
2) Door unlocked, entered truck, locked truck with key fob. Key out of ignition. Opener worked.
3) Door unlocked, key in ignition, turned to on, turned to off, key removed and door opened. Opener worked.
4) Door unlocked, key in ignition, window opened, key removed, door opened and closed. Opener worked.
5) Door left unlocked. No key in ignition, truck left to soak for 15 minutes. Opener did NOT work.
6) Truck locked with window opened. truck left to soak 15 minutes. Opener did NOT work.
SO.... I believe there is some sort of timer used to disable power to the opener. It is 15 minutes or less in length but it did shut off power to it. Thinking back about my earlier comment. I remember coming back to the truck reaching in the window to open my bay. Didn't work, so my assumption is that the key had to be in the ignition.
Nicely done Ford.
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I think it is working as designed. If you had left the window opened and reached in, it should not have worked. By opening the door, you had reactivated the circuit.
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From: Woodstock, GA
Analysis complete...
Scenarios:
1) Door unlocked with key fob, key not in ignition. Opener worked.
2) Door unlocked, entered truck, locked truck with key fob. Key out of ignition. Opener worked.
3) Door unlocked, key in ignition, turned to on, turned to off, key removed and door opened. Opener worked.
4) Door unlocked, key in ignition, window opened, key removed, door opened and closed. Opener worked.
5) Door left unlocked. No key in ignition, truck left to soak for 15 minutes. Opener did NOT work.
6) Truck locked with window opened. truck left to soak 15 minutes. Opener did NOT work.
SO.... I believe there is some sort of timer used to disable power to the opener. It is 15 minutes or less in length but it did shut off power to it. Thinking back about my earlier comment. I remember coming back to the truck reaching in the window to open my bay. Didn't work, so my assumption is that the key had to be in the ignition.
Nicely done Ford.
Scenarios:
1) Door unlocked with key fob, key not in ignition. Opener worked.
2) Door unlocked, entered truck, locked truck with key fob. Key out of ignition. Opener worked.
3) Door unlocked, key in ignition, turned to on, turned to off, key removed and door opened. Opener worked.
4) Door unlocked, key in ignition, window opened, key removed, door opened and closed. Opener worked.
5) Door left unlocked. No key in ignition, truck left to soak for 15 minutes. Opener did NOT work.
6) Truck locked with window opened. truck left to soak 15 minutes. Opener did NOT work.
SO.... I believe there is some sort of timer used to disable power to the opener. It is 15 minutes or less in length but it did shut off power to it. Thinking back about my earlier comment. I remember coming back to the truck reaching in the window to open my bay. Didn't work, so my assumption is that the key had to be in the ignition.
Nicely done Ford.
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Thanks so much for performing the analysis. I guess that explains why when I opened the door on my friends truck the opener buttons lit up the LEDs...circuit was reactivated. Before I invest in the visor I'll try your test with my vanity mirror. I assume that should not power after the delay too.