Subscribing. I am confident Clay is doing everything in his power to make things right. I purchased the FRx at RRE this year and don't currently have my truck to check the brand of the hoses. Thanks to the OP for bringing the issue to light.

 

Really? A good Chance? How many trucks have burned up from this?



What clux doesn't realize is that about half of your posts over the last few weeks have been about Clay or his products. And if not that its been in a thread that talks about Clay's products and you jump in with one of DI's products. It seems you have a school girl crush. I just can't figure if its on Clay or David....

 

I have nothing to gain from anything in this thread, but as an interested bystander (trying to always learn about potential issues and their solutions), it seems to me that the purpose of the thread has been fulfilled at this point, and there is nothing to be gained by flicking boogers at one another like some of you are doing.

I've learned from and gained a distinct appreciation from a lot of you, and I have no beef with any of you except when personal attacks start being made. This simply isn't the place for it. It's not productive or helpful in any form. Personal issues ought to be handled "personally", not publicly.

The real issue in this thread is that the peformance and reliability issue experienced by Chris was already being investigated by the supplier, and the supplier (Clay) was apparently proactive enough after one or two events to discover the potential root cause and responsibly notify all affected parties with an advisory notice AND offer a plan for making them whole with an improved option as soon as it could be confirmed as being ready for "prime time".

What more would you want from a supplier? Perfection? THAT ain't gonna happen from ANY supplier (Riffraff, Diesel Innovations, Sinister Diesel, Diesel Site, ITP, Spartan, PHP, DP, Ford, Filtercovers, etc.).

Just another $0.02 in the pot.

 

WELL SAID PETE! reps to you. ( When I can. )

 

 

very well said Pete...i had nothing bad to say till i was provoked...i was trying to let these guy's know the danger of this mod and thats why i posted up that letter to let these guy's that didnt know that there is a problem and its being checked into...
not one vendor has the best of every thing...all vendors have one thing that makes them stand out...i only put on my truck or recomend what has been proven over the years...i dont want my truck to blow up, or burn down....and i sure as hell dont want it to happen to some one else that recomend a mod too...it may seem i post in every thread that a link to Clays site is posted on..but come on..open your eyes...his link is in every thread...i cant help the fact i have my own opinion and i stick to it..
. like you said...all the info is here that is needed..i have lost intrest and im not here to be called name's because ihave my own opinion....

 

hahahahaha good one Ed !!!

 

Had the same thing happen to me,hose blew off one side of the T block,i didnt put hose clamps on because the kit come with none,but after seeing how the hose sits on the T block well you can see that a hose clamp will fix the problem ....DUH.

Sent clay a email about what had happenen,he couldnt be anymore apolagetic for what happened, i dont blame him,just myself for not looking harder..

 

So I'm still confused. Did they fail to put some clamps on, or actually believe it was a good idea to send some out without clamps?

 

While anything is possible, how many threads have we seen over the years where a sleeve or o-rings have flooded the valley, dumped a bunch of fuel, and caused the clutch to be soaked with diesel and slip? Luckily for us, diesel fuel isn't too quick to ignite, and the valley tends to drain in relatively safe places, so we haven't heard about diesel in the valley burning up too many trucks.

Of course if it did burn up, I'd say the odds are slim that the insurance company would be able to figure out the cause.


Apparently some were sent out without clamps because the hose manufacturer said clamps weren't needed. I'm not exactly sure how it works, but I took my clamps off today to put on a smaller set of clamps that fit that size line better. While it appears to be just a regular hose barb fitting, I couldn't get the line back off. As easy as the line was to push on there, I couldn't pull the stupid thing back off again today, on either side. Both sides still leaked without a clamp, but the hose was not coming off the barb, which makes no sense to me. Anyway, put clamps on every fitting there was so I feel better and no more drips. Towing the tractor over to move some hay wasn't too much fun, but the clutch is starting to slip a little less now.

 

Ok, I have been getting a few PM's and questions today from people who have the FRx or are ordering and I feel I need to make sure we are clear on all the details.

The FRx has been in use for over 2 years now and over 300 units with ZERO production hose failures. If you purchased your FRx before August of this year you have Gates 30R9 180 psi hose and are not included in this recall and have no known issue. We made the decision to switch to Goodyear 30R9 hose because it was higher bio rated and this was something we have found hard to find in the past. Because Goodyear is a Global company with a reputation for quality and is SAE rated we pushed it directly into production. As soon as an issue was discovered we issued the statement and have been in talks with Goodyear corporate in Germany about the issue. Since that day we have gone back to Gates hose and will stick with it as well as producing SS braided lines.

If you have the Goodyear hose please contact us and we will send out a new system with Gates hose on it free of charge. Please contact us if you have any questions as we are happy to help.

 

That's a class act Clay. That's more evidence of that world famous customer service!

 

i see by the looks you new your self the possibility was there

havent seen many oil fires happen eather but it does happen...i believe when twin HPOP came to market a couple trucks burned up...i have seen big trucks burn do to leaks and have lost a very good friend that was sleeping in his bunch when a fuel leak set his truck on fire...his boss was in a hurry and did a cheap quick fix that didnt hold...getting his truck rolling and making $$ was too inportent to him at the time..i cant help but feel if he was driving that truck he would have fixed it the right way..in my book..them lines are nothing to fool with..sorry i feel that way...

 

Have you guys ever used push loc or twist lock hose and fittings? If so then you know hose clamps are not necessary or required. I use them all the time, mostly on fuel and oil lines, obviously not on an extreme high pressure line. There's a limit to its design. This isn't a design flaw, i've not had one ever leak on me and still haven't. This looks to be a manufacturer defect on the hose.

People gerry rig stuff all the time, what's the significance of that story?

Anyway after having said my peace, i am considering going back and putting clamps on the t block barbs because they do look slightly different than the twist loc fittings and it will be added security. It's been 1 1/2 years now and just fine, so i'm sure it's fine though. Had nothing ever been said i wouldn't have given it a 2nd thought because i trust the twist loc design.
It'd be nice if this could just stay as a discussion without finger pointing because good info will be lost, at least Clay came back and responded

 

I have used push loc and twist lock fittings a lot. However, those don't appear to be push loc fittings that blew off on Chris's engine, they are simple hose barbs. If you expect those to hold without clamps like a real push loc or a twist lock, you're going to get an unpleasant surprise just like Chris did. You can blame it on on the hose manufacturer if they said it would hold, but sorry, even an uneducated idiot like me can see that's a bad design.