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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 09:04 PM
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Will it STOP me?

I am building a 76 with power brakes. I slicked the firewall and the brake booster is just cluttering up things. I recently acquired a 72 with no power brakes. My question is whats the difference between a master cylinder on a truck with verses without power brakes. Can I just bolt my MC to the firewall with no booster and most importantly WILL IT STOP ME? Thanks
 
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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It's illegal to "downgrade" the original braking system.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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Manual brakes work perfectly fine and I bet you wouldn't notice much of a difference.

If it were truly illegal ALL of the major brake manufacturers, plus the aftermarket companies would be in a major bing offering power to manual brake conversions for street cars. This even includes modern cars like LT1 Corvettes and Mustangs.

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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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i've never heard of it being illegal. i dont see a problem if done correctly with the right parts
 
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 10:51 PM
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Thanks Guys

LOL @ illegal. My whole truck is illegal if ya wanna get tecnical HAHA bagged and bodydropped no wipers no horn grille covers the headlights...the list goes on.

I guess now I just need to find out if My NEW Master Cylinder will work or do I have to get a different one specifically for an application with manual brakes.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 10:53 PM
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I believe the "laws" state you can't "down grade" the braking system.

However, the trucks were available with and without power brakes. So swapping one for the other is a wash.

Also, you can UPGRADE from a power master cylinder to a manual M/C using a more modern design.

I use an aluminum manual m/c from an 80s Ford Ranger. Worked like a charm as a standalone and when I adapted hydroboost.

That is until the darn hydroboost took a dump, now I am back to manual.

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Originally Posted by FLATFORD1976
I guess now I just need to find out if My NEW Master Cylinder will work or do I have to get a different one specifically for an application with manual brakes.
I am curious why there are some listings for manual and for power. Possibly because some manual m/c come with a rubber boot and the power units do not?

There is no difference in the design, they function the same. Manual, power or hydroboost.

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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 11:31 PM
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I double checked the FMVSS articles that I thought mention conversion and can't find where it would have said it's illegal. Not sure why I thought that then. Don't listen to me.
 
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I have driven a lot of these trucks the stock power boosted brakes are marginal at best and the manual version is even worse. For a show truck I could see this being done but even then most guys just move the entire setup to the frame.
 
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