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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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Grinds Going into Fourth

Only had my 69 F100 going for a little while now, the original four speed shifted flawlessly at first, but yesterday I took it for a test drive. The transmission was normal, till it was time to go into fourth, it grinds quite loudly now going into fourth. It down shifts fine, and the other gears seem normal. Any ideas?
 
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 12:38 PM
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Fourth gear is the "straight through" gear, which means that the input shaft gets coupled directly to the output shaft by a synchronizer ring. Meanwhile, the cluster gear (which is the one-piece group of gears on a secondary shaft) is getting spun by the input shaft, but isn't coupled to anything else.

If you're getting grinding going into fourth only, it usually means that something is dragging down the speed of the input shaft during that second while the clutch is in and you're right between 3rd and 4th. It could be a dragging bearing in the cluster shaft.

You can try changing the oil in the transmission. It could be that the oil is too old and thick. There's also a small chance that the linkage rod that does the 3rd & 4th gears may be a little out of adjustment. It's worth checking. Other than that, you've got to pull the transmission out and apart. Unfortunately, with manual transmissions, it's often cheaper to buy another transmission than it is to repair one.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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Thank you for that info, hopefully the oil will do the trick.
Like I said one day it's fine, the next day it's grinding.
There is something binding in the four wheel drive system. The four wheel drive will not disengage after using it, but that should not have any affect on this transmission problem should it?
Is it really costly to have repairs done to the NP435's?
 
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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What weight oil should it use?
 
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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80w-90 is a standard replacement.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 08:56 AM
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No idea!! You can put a motor flush in it and drive it around a little then change the fluid. That sometimes helps with getting the gunk that gets traped in tight areas in the trans
 
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 09:07 AM
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Like some ATF ?
It hurts my bones to hear it grind.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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For my truck the NP435 requires 50 weight motor oil. Might consider a synthic lube also.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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Just want you to learn what I learned so far.
Drained out about 1/2 quart of thick gear oil. Parked it on a side hill so I could get it extra full, and added a quart of A.T.F. Drove it about 15 miles, and it dont grind going into fourth anymore.
Think I should just run it as is?
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 09:23 PM
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Like 81 f150 said 50Wt. motor is what ford says to use in tranny & TF case. The 50wt.
is what the glove box manual says to use. This is now harder to find 50wt. I'm using 60wt. penns racing oil in T case..works for me..my 2cent
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