As most of you know I recently got screwed by a local transmission shop, 2 1/2 months and 3 transmissions.
Anyhow, The trans thats that was last installed is a reman unit, not built by the trans shop I initially went to. (thats probably why it works)

Curiosity got the best of me, so I decided to run the numbers off of the trans tag. The Ford tag was replaced by a "remanufactured" tag as I expected, but I was supprised to find out that I have a "F81Z7V000HBRM" which is a Ford HD trans. Great right? Well maybe...
I"ll probably never know if the "HD" parts are actually in the trans until It comes apart being that It was remand.
Maybe Mark would know, but if it was remanufatured I'm thinking just stock non-HD parts could have went in the trans instead of the HD parts...or Is it somehow different, and would require the HD parts go back in?
I'm just trying to ease my mind, and accept this trans without the fear of it breaking everytime I drive the truck...
I found this info on the HD trans thanks to Grant (tdpower)

"To address customer demand for a heavy duty transmission to meet the high load, severe duty cycle needs of commercial and recreational users, FCSD is releasing an enhanced version of our remanufactured 4R100 transmission.
This transmission will be Motorcraft branded and offered for customer-paid repairs only.
FEATURES / BENEFITS
This exciting new product is built with numerous durability and performance upgrades. These include:

Enhanced Torque Converter for better performance and longer life (I dont have that)
Oversize one piece case bushing for improved durability
Enhanced Forward, Direct, and Intermediate Friction plates for longer life under heavy load shifts
All new special upgraded steel plates
Center Support Enhancements for improved gear train life
Mercon V-OIL for greater heat resistance
Oversize Pump Gear Set for improved oil flow
Upgraded Extension Housing Bushing for improved durability
45 Element Intermediate Sprag for greater strength to withstand heavy loads
Special coast clutch drum for improved engine braking and increased durability
All new iron planetary assemblies for improved durability
All new one way clutches for improved durability
All new electronics for improved reliability
Revised calibration gives better shifts for heavy duty use
Improved gasketing for reduced leaks
ORDERING INFORMATION
Order from your Powertrain Distributor.

APPLICATION INFORMATION

This Heavy Duty transmission is offered in 4 versions to fit non PTO diesel equipped trucks from 1999 to 2003 model years.
Detailed application data is in the attached file (Excel) (Pdf) as well as Dealer Catalog systems.
The regular 4R100 applications will still be available.
Order the HD4R100 based on your customer mix keeping in mind fleet, towing, and commercial users will be the likely users of this product.
PRICING

Dealer Net Price is $2494.00 with a $1000.00 core deposit.
Suggested Retail is $3325.33.
This price is very competitive with other heavy duty units available in the market today

Service Part Number Motorcraft HD4R100 TRM Number
1999 4R100HD Super Duty 4X2 F250, 350, 450, 550 7.3L F81Z7V000HBRM 6U2Z7V000HRM TRM-1621
1999 4R100HD Super Duty 4X4 F250, 350, 450, 550 7.3L F81Z7V000LBRM 6U2Z7V000LRM TRM-1622
2000 4R100HD Super Duty 4X2 F250, 350, 450, 550 7.3L F81Z7V000HBRM 6U2Z7V000HRM TRM-1621
2000 4R100HD Super Duty 4X4 F250, 350, 450, 550 7.3L F81Z7V000LBRM 6U2Z7V000LRM TRM-1622
2001 4R100HD Super Duty 4X2 F250, 350, 450, 550 EXCURSION 7.3L 1C3Z7000EBRM 1C3Z7V000ERM 6U2Z7V000ERM TRM-1619
2001 4R100HD Super Duty 4X4 F250, 350, 450, 550 EXCURSION 7.3L 1C3Z7000FBRM 1C3Z7V000FRM 6U2Z7V000FRM TRM-1620
2002 4R100HD Super Duty 4X2 F250, 350, 450, 550 EXCURSION 7.3L 1C3Z7000EBRM 6U2Z7V000ERM TRM-1619
2002 4R100HD Super Duty 4X4 F250, 350, 450, 550 EXCURSION 7.3L 1C3Z7000FBRM 6U2Z7V000FRM TRM-1620
2003 4R100HD Super Duty 4X2 F250, 350, 450, 550 EXCURSION 7.3L 1C3Z7000EBRM 6U2Z7V000ERM TRM-1619
2003 4R100HD Super Duty 4X4 F250, 350, 450, 550 EXCURSION 7.3L 1C3Z7000FBRM 6U2Z7V000FRM TRM-1620" <!-- / message -->

 

Frank, There are two part numbers listed in each line. I think the 6U2Z7V000LRM is the heavy duty one.


Here are the prices from Ed's site:

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...&siteid=214072

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...&siteid=214072

Edit: the link does not seem to be working but you can check it out. I'm pretty sure the 6U one is the heavy duty and the other one is a standard Ford rebuild.

 

I guess mine is standard issue.

 

I've got about 88k miles on my ford HD trans. I don't tow every day, but on average 2 to 3 times a week, and anywhere between 5-12k lbs. I only have 60T,80T, and 80E on my chip, and usually leave it in 80T since I like the shifting better. I wanted a BTS but mine crapped out at 98k miles, and I had to have my truck back up asap, and the dealership had me in and out in three days. I've been pleased thusfar, and I just recently swapped in a JWVB, and actually can't tell any difference. Not sure if they do anything in the factory VB or not, but I'm having a hard time telling any noticeable difference. Either way, I can't really complain.

 

Grant, Now i'm even more confused.....

 

I noticed a difference when I installed my JWVB. I'm second guessing that I have a HD unit.

 

Tom, my tag was on the left side towards the rear of the trans. Im not sure what the Ford tag looks like, but I think thats a different trans tag that you posted. Do you have a pic of that one?

EDIT: nevermind, I looked at it again, and that is the correct tag.

 

Sorry to confuse you. At least you got a ford re manufactured unit. I would call ford to confirm the two different numbers. Maybe Kevin can post the number on his.

 

That was where i found that one left side near the rear,i'll go look for another one. Nope that was the only tag

 

Your right Tom, thats the Ford tag. I'm just trying to get a part number from it? 1C3P is the start....but i'm confused about the order of the rest of it?

 

Sorry for the crummy pics, took them with my HTC Hero phone. According to the description above, it is the HD version listed for 2002 trucks. I don't know if they would have different part numbers for different year trucks or not. Here's my labels

 

Thank you kevin, your phone did fine. I used my samsung droid for my tag pic.
According to the list in my first post, We both have a HD unit.
You tag confirms that. and you tag is from Ford right?
I was thinking that the tag on mine was from whatever company did the last rebuild??

 

Yeah I got mine from local dealership. I really contemplated having BTS build and ship me one to the dealer to install. However with the shipping, and then the install labor at dealer, plus the dealer had one there the next day, I really had to go this route. I was leaving for vacation in a few days, and the additional expense on the tranny, plus renting a ride for a week worked against me.

 

Thanks again Kevin. I am also looking into a BTS.
I'm thinking of taking legal action on the shop that attempted to rebuild my last trans. After two unsuccessful attempts to rebuild mine, he told me that he bought a crate reman from a company out of Orlando. Well, it looks like he put in a spraypainted junkyard trans.
Thats what got me started on tracing the tag numbers. Now I'm hoping he did get a JY trans, and that reman shop didn't gut a HD unit and put in the stock weak parts.
Maybe I can get something out of the first shop, and get this trans rebuilt if infact all of the Ford HD parts are still intact.
Here a pic of the trans that raised an eyebrow about it just coming out of a reman shop. It looks like dirt in the casting holes....I would think that the case would have been hot tanked and super clean, not still dirty.

 

Frank if you don't have the Enhanced Torque Converter, what do you have? Wouldn't that be part of the trans when bought from Ford?