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Old 12-01-2016, 10:54 AM
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My computer went crazy today

Truck was running fine. I dropped off a return at the Home Depot PRO desk (truck off). Started the truck and moved to PRO parking and parked nose-to-nose with some kind of older RAM with a chrome bumper (did not touch front ends).

Did some shopping, got back in the truck, started it and:

Computer restarts.
Message flashes: adaptive cruise not available
Message box: check manual (ok)
Message flashes: pre-collission not available
Message box: check manual (ok)
Computer restarts.
Message flashes: hill start assist not available
Message box: check manual (ok)

Check engine light on.

I wondered if it had to do with parking so close to the RAM? So I drove it to an empty space, shut it down, waited a moment, started it back up -- same thing.

So I drove it to the ford dealer (5 minutes away). Shut down / restarted for service writer -- no messages -- just check engine light.

He tells me it's an all day thing, and they are booked up. Make an appointment.

I figured forget that, I'll just clear it myself and see what happens.

Using Torque Pro, I pull the codes and all I get is this:

P2610 - Powertrain
M/PCM Internal Engine Off Timer Performance Fault

So I clear the codes, the check engine light turns off. I shut it down, restart it, and it seems fine. I drove it about 5 miles and it's parked now.

The only other 'variable' I know of is I was trying to set up the DPF monitors in Torque Pro and couldn't get them working -- right before I went in to Home Depot. But I'm 99.999% sure I didn't write anything to the truck.

So I don't know if it's parking close to a metal bumper, messing around with Torque Pro, or something else. Scratching my head, but happy with no error codes at the moment...
 
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:35 PM
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So I've made two trips since. Everything is fine. My best guess is:

1. Starting the truck with the sensor that's inches from a large metal surface scrambles the computer's eggs.

2. I kept turning it on and off trying to see if it would clear. I suspect that caused the P2610 fault (which if I understand correctly means it can't determine how long it's been running) -- due to more brain scrambling from the on/off/on/off/on stuff.

I'll report back if there are other issues. Meanwhile I'd love to hear from anyone who gets any similar symptoms and especially if they were up against a big sheet of metal when it happened.
 
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Old 12-01-2016, 01:25 PM
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This isn't exactly the same thing but I noticed on my 2011 that if Torque Pro was running the truck would sometimes randomly throw an error code. I attributed it to a bandwidth issue of the truck's computer or OBDII port. I read once that by simply listening to too many PIDs can actually interrupt internal communications. This is only a theory on my part supported by a post somewhere else.

It's more likely that on startup the related module glitched and didn't communicate properly therefore throwing a code. I think this is something that we are only seeing the beginning of. Truck glitches and the fix is to reboot.
 
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Old 12-01-2016, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 191124x7
So I've made two trips since. Everything is fine. My best guess is:

1. Starting the truck with the sensor that's inches from a large metal surface scrambles the computer's eggs.

2. I kept turning it on and off trying to see if it would clear. I suspect that caused the P2610 fault (which if I understand correctly means it can't determine how long it's been running) -- due to more brain scrambling from the on/off/on/off/on stuff.

I'll report back if there are other issues. Meanwhile I'd love to hear from anyone who gets any similar symptoms and especially if they were up against a big sheet of metal when it happened.
Had this issue with cross traffic/bliss when I parked with the bumper just a few inches from a hedge row. When I restarted the truck got the errors, pulled out a few feet and restarted and errors gone. My guess at the time was that there is a minimum clearance required at startup for the sensors to "boot". No errors since but have not had to back into such a tight spot where I shut the truck down either.
 
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Old 12-01-2016, 02:25 PM
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Both my trucks had an error when running my torque pro, same error on both, "network failure" I believe it happens when restarting truck with the torque pro running. Other truck was a 2009 f150.
 
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Old 12-02-2016, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wb6anp
Both my trucks had an error when running my torque pro, same error on both, "network failure" I believe it happens when restarting truck with the torque pro running. Other truck was a 2009 f150.
I've confirmed that if I start my truck with torque pro attached (both the dongle and a wireless connection to a device running torque pro in range) all kinds of stuff 'breaks.' Today it was, putting it in reverse, park assist broke.

I removed the dongle, restarted the truck, zero issues.

Thanks for this!
 
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Old 12-02-2016, 03:36 PM
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I think your truck was just telling you to never park it that close to a RAM ever again.
 
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You got RAM Cooties....eeeew
 
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