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Old 09-19-2013, 12:11 PM
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Just an update on this.

I had indicated above that I had erroneously ordered the kit for the GAS versions (351 cid gas only)

Well, the spring pack did not work out, given an extra 300lbs of bumper and winch on the front of my Ex. The spring pack (not my V codes) never gave me the quite the lift I wanted.

I finally decided to purchase the correct spring packs and install them. I just put them on order from Streetside auto.

So I wanted to let anyone know that might purchase these springs or the spring kits what the differences between them are.

There are two spring packs, the 82201, and the 82200.


The 82201 is specified for the V10 and all diesels. It has 5 leaves total. This is the set found in the Summit Racing SUM-G782 kit.

The 82200 is specified for the 351 and 5.4 liter engines. It has 4 leaves total. The long leaf right under the top leaf in the 82201 pack is left out to change the rate for the lighter engines. This is the set found in the Summit Racing SUM-G781 kit.

Edit: Update. They just arrived today, the next day after ordering. Man that was fast. Via FedEx.
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Old 09-20-2013, 10:12 PM
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Update.

They have changed the Tuff country 82201 and 82202 in a couple of minor ways.

The large square Teflon rub pads with two mounting nubs are now single nub round 2-1.2" pads.

The obvious front downward bend at the front of the longest leaf is now gone. It is straight.

For future information:

The rectangular pads on the old style spring are 3" wide. They can be replaced with Skyjacker IN300D double nib pads. Available on EBay and Summit racing

The new style is standard 2-1/2" X 7/16" nib pads available on eBay and Summit racing.
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I have a question if I go with the 2.5" leveling kit like you have done which looks great, what length front shocks are you all using? Is it stock length for F250's or 0 to 2" for F250's or 4" for Excursions? I think I am going to go this route over a lift kit or pro comp springs.
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Easy to figure out for your Excursion.

If you are installing V or X code springs, Then use standard F250 length shocks. The Excursion starts life with special springs that make it about 1.5 to 2 inches lower than the Super Duties to start with. Sort of a factory 'Low Rider' job. Those springs lift the Excursion by :

V......1.5 to 1.75"
X......2.5 to 2.75"

These are standard springs and heights for F250's.

However, If you lift the Excursion to 4 to 5 inches higher than the original height, (Original height around 39" from ground to the middle of the fender well lip), then you will want the shocks for the Excursion with a 4" lift. (Which would be a F50 with a 2" to 2.5" lift)

For 5 to 6 inch lift on the Excursion from original height, then you would be looking at shocks that fit a f250 with a 4" lift.
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Thanks for the info. It was the C springs I wasnt sure about. Worried about riding it like a tank.
Shep, I added C codes (used from an F350) plus the mod to my Ex. Not too stiff IMO, I also run Rancho 9000 shocks on the 5 setting.


http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/12...c-springs.html
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I did a similar mod as you. My 2000 V10 was saggin bad. Went with Vs up front with an add a leaf and 2 leafs of a mini pack. Out back I went with modified B's that used the two short leaves from the Ex pack as well as the cut off Slapper bar, but instead of the factory Ford 3.75" blocks, I ordered a set of Tuff Country 5" blocks. I was right at 5" over where I started. I also chose to use the 35x12.5x16.5 rims and tires I had for my F350. They were my Summer tires, but since getting my 265x70x19.5 tires for hauling our camper, I wasn't using them on the F350, so it was an easy choice!
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Link is not working, Garry,

I think you meant this:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/12...cursion-3.html
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I was looking at a set of Bilstein shocks for my spring swap, shocks are for Excursion 4-6" of lift. X codes with the Zone 2.5" leveling kit with adjustable track bar and modded B's with rancho 2" add leafs I purchased. Here is a link for the shock set BIL: 4 Bilstein Shocks 00-05 Ford Excursion 4x4 4-6" of lift. I think they should work if my calculations are right or close.
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Link is not working, Garry,

I think you meant this:

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I was looking at a set of Bilstein shocks for my spring swap, shocks are for Excursion 4-6" of lift. X codes with the Zone 2.5" leveling kit with adjustable track bar and modded B's with rancho 2" add leafs I purchased. Here is a link for the shock set BIL: 4 Bilstein Shocks 00-05 Ford Excursion 4x4 4-6" of lift. I think they should work if my calculations are right or close.
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Be careful on front shocks for the Excursions... If you order them too long, then they will not have enough stroke to work correctly, and you can cause damage...

The shock mount on superduties is mounted on top of the spring pack. So the dimension that you want to measure is how much change you have between the shock mount lower to shock mount upper. If most of your lift is due to a larger arched spring pack, then most of the lift will be seen in the shock too. But if most of you lift is due to more springs in the pack, then you don not need the extra long shocks. I found this out thehard way on my 02 F350. I leveled it with a mini pack, and then bought "+2" shocks. They were too long for the F350, since all the lift was "under" the shock mount.... On my 00 Excursion. The V's had the correct arch for a F350 (+2" for the Ex), then with the "add-a-leaf" i got an added 2" of arch. Then the mini-pack of 2 leaves plus the thickness of the add-a-leaf, netted me the remaining inch. This allowed me to order +2" shocks for a F350, and they work fantastic! The rears I ordered +4-6" rear shocks, and they were back ordered for almost 4 months. Fortunately I drove the Ex stock until I had all the parts assembled.

Hope this helps you out!
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OK I am going to be running X codes in front that I believe give about 3" lift on V10 Ex and Zone off road leveling kit similar to the summit racing and tuff country spring leaf and mini pack under it. Also modded B codes with a Rancho 2" add a leaf which I picked up used also. That's why I was thinking if I needed 4" front shocks and same for the rears. Figuring I will be gaining around 4" or so. Just trying to get all my ducks in a row before I buy shocks to do swap in a weekend and be back up and running for work.
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Whoa, guys. Step back and think about it. Those shocks for a 4" lift will work fine for a 4" spring lift, but will not work out so well for a add on spring pack lift.

It looks like I need to do a "How to choose your lifted shock lengths for Excursions" Thread.

Give me a little bit while I make the new thread and you will see what I mean....
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Thanks Bion I would be grateful if you did a thread. I don't want to get wrong shocks. That's why I am asking questions even if they are wrong or stupid.
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Wow, this was an old one that got dug up. Glad to see it is still helping folks.

Since we're now talking shocks, I recently upgraded to Bilsteins - duals up front and singles in the rear. A nice improvement.

But length is critical, as Bion mentioned. And because of the spring pack leveling kit I used, I did not need 4" longer shocks, rather somewhere in the neighborhood of 1"~2" longer is all. Measurement of your setup is crucial before buying shocks.
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