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How to find my GEM part number

Aside from pulling the dash apart, how can I find my GEM part number from my 02 Excursion?

How hard is it to get to the GEM in the dash to find the part number?

Where is the GEM in the dash?

Thank you all in advance!
 
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Old 08-26-2016, 09:29 PM
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If memory serves I think 02-03 have a VSM not a GEM and it's under the middle of the dash. Sorry I can't help more than that but it may help when doing internet searches.
 
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The GEM is located behind the glove box on an 02 and can be accessed in about 30 seconds. What are your issues you are having?
 
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Originally Posted by AllaboutMPG
If memory serves I think 02-03 have a VSM not a GEM and it's under the middle of the dash. Sorry I can't help more than that but it may help when doing internet searches.
They have both a VSM and a GEM.
 
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So there you have it. My memory is just as bad as I thought it was
 
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Originally Posted by Chevota_72
The GEM is located behind the glove box on an 02 and can be accessed in about 30 seconds. What are your issues you are having?


I'm not having issues, just trying to record part numbers for my various modules in the event they fail.

How do I access it?
 
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Found it, that was easy. Thank you!
 
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Open your glove box and then you can squeeze the sides of the glove box in and it will pivot down and the GEM (General Electric module) will be behind it. The VSM (vehicle security module) is mounted up under the dash close to the floor right in the middle and is not very fun to access.
 
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There are NO Ford part numbers marked on any parts after 1956, only casting or ID engineering numbers (when applicable).

So the number y'all will find in this case will be the ID Engineering number that someone with a Ford parts catalog can cross to an actual Ford part number.
 
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The number printed on the module quickly pulled up a new Ford replacement unit. Number was 2c3t 14b205


 
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Originally Posted by Jesser02EX
The number printed on the module quickly pulled up a new Ford replacement unit. Number was 2C3T-14B205-AA
This is the ID Engineering number, the dead bang give-away: The 4th digit in a Ford part number prefix is a Z

I typed this "number" into the Ford D2D (Dealer to Dealer, FoMoCo dealer parts locating system).

See what it says? 2C3T14B205AA is not a valid part number for Ford.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
There are NO Ford part numbers marked on any parts after 1956, only casting or ID engineering numbers (when applicable).

So the number y'all will find in this case will be the ID Engineering number that someone with a Ford parts catalog can cross to an actual Ford part number.
Whether or not it is a true Ford part number it will achieve the results the OP is wanting, it will be able to be cross referenced to a good part number through Ford. It would have saved me about $500 from our local dealership as they replaced the GEM when I asked for a VSM to be replaced/programmed if I would have given them the number on the module I knew I needed I would still have that money in my pocket. The second dealership I went to I had to give them the number off of the VSM so they didn't order a GEM as well, they had no problem pulling up the correct part with the number that was on it.
 
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Now I need to find that VSM/PATS number... The location will make it harder.
 
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You may be able to see the VSM number with an extendable mirror from the drivers side laying down by the pedals and looking towards the center of the rig above the transmission hump.
 
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Whether or not it is a true Ford part number it will achieve the results the OP is wanting, it will be able to be cross referenced to a good part number through Ford.
This is exactly what I said, one needs a parts catalog to cross reference the ID number to a part number. I can do this thru 2001, otherwise y'all will have to go to a dealer.
 
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