Is a EGR really a good thing?
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Is a EGR really a good thing?
I just bought a 2003 6.0. Fairly new, and could use some experienced advice on a few things.
The unit has an EGR delete, new ficram, batteries, 260 0 00 kms. I've had it less than a week.
I have oil in the coolant. The degas bottle spews coolant. I have replaced the cap, but it still seems to blow out of it. The coolant in the degas is similar to the constistancy of a milkshake (foamy). Dash gauges seem stable ( oil and coolant)
After doing some research on here, I first thought that it was simply the all to common oil cooler issue. I thought I would replace the oil cooler, rad, all hoses and add a coolant filtration system. After further reading on various sites, posts ect, I'm not to sure if this is the root cause?
Does the EGR delete cause the pressure build up? Am I likely to have injector and head problems in the future? Is it best to simply pull the motor and throw a new one in? Dump the truck totally?
Your thoughts on this post?
The unit has an EGR delete, new ficram, batteries, 260 0 00 kms. I've had it less than a week.
I have oil in the coolant. The degas bottle spews coolant. I have replaced the cap, but it still seems to blow out of it. The coolant in the degas is similar to the constistancy of a milkshake (foamy). Dash gauges seem stable ( oil and coolant)
After doing some research on here, I first thought that it was simply the all to common oil cooler issue. I thought I would replace the oil cooler, rad, all hoses and add a coolant filtration system. After further reading on various sites, posts ect, I'm not to sure if this is the root cause?
Does the EGR delete cause the pressure build up? Am I likely to have injector and head problems in the future? Is it best to simply pull the motor and throw a new one in? Dump the truck totally?
Your thoughts on this post?
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I have oil in the coolant. The degas bottle spews coolant. I have replaced the cap, but it still seems to blow out of it. The coolant in the degas is similar to the constistancy of a milkshake (foamy). Dash gauges seem stable ( oil and coolant)
After doing some research on here, I first thought that it was simply the all to common oil cooler issue. I thought I would replace the oil cooler, rad, all hoses and add a coolant filtration system. After further reading on various sites, posts ect, I'm not to sure if this is the root cause?
Does the EGR delete cause the pressure build up? Am I likely to have injector and head problems in the future? Is it best to simply pull the motor and throw a new one in? Dump the truck totally?
Your thoughts on this post?
After doing some research on here, I first thought that it was simply the all to common oil cooler issue. I thought I would replace the oil cooler, rad, all hoses and add a coolant filtration system. After further reading on various sites, posts ect, I'm not to sure if this is the root cause?
Does the EGR delete cause the pressure build up? Am I likely to have injector and head problems in the future? Is it best to simply pull the motor and throw a new one in? Dump the truck totally?
Your thoughts on this post?
Hmm.
Well, I guess your post has essentially 5 questions in it.
Is a EGR really a good thing?
Am I likely to have injector and head problems in the future?
Does the EGR delete cause the pressure build up?
Is it best to simply pull the motor and throw a new one in?
Dump the truck totally?
my first guess is engine oil (cooler leak) but before you jump to any conclusions, you need to positively identify what is actually leaking into the coolant. (engine oil, trans oil or fuel)
I would follow Josh's suggestion of replacing the oil cooler and doing the simple green (or other detergent) flush to clear the oil from the entire cooling system.
Regards,
Rick
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Make sure it's OIL first. If you have a cracked injector cup it will put fuel in the coolant because of the fuel pressure is substantially higher than coolant pressure. I would put a pressure gauge inline on the small hose from the top of the radiator to the reservoir. Then, with the engine warmed up to operating temperature but turned OFF (not running), activate the fuel pump while watching the gauge. This can be done by cycling the key on/off listening to the pump running. If the gauge climbs, it's obviously fuel being pushed into the coolant system.
Post your findings.
Post your findings.
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Make sure it's OIL first. If you have a cracked injector cup it will put fuel in the coolant because of the fuel pressure is substantially higher than coolant pressure. I would put a pressure gauge inline on the small hose from the top of the radiator to the reservoir. Then, with the engine warmed up to operating temperature but turned OFF (not running), activate the fuel pump while watching the gauge. This can be done by cycling the key on/off listening to the pump running. If the gauge climbs, it's obviously fuel being pushed into the coolant system.
Post your findings.
Post your findings.
#9
Make sure it's OIL first. If you have a cracked injector cup it will put fuel in the coolant because of the fuel pressure is substantially higher than coolant pressure. I would put a pressure gauge inline on the small hose from the top of the radiator to the reservoir. Then, with the engine warmed up to operating temperature but turned OFF (not running), activate the fuel pump while watching the gauge. This can be done by cycling the key on/off listening to the pump running. If the gauge climbs, it's obviously fuel being pushed into the coolant system.
Post your findings.
Post your findings.
My experience with testing for fuel/coolant contamination (which I doubt that is this issue) is to pull the block drains and run the fuel pump. The leak would take hours to notice using degas pressure. If its fuel in coolant,, it will flow (drip actually)out of the block drain associated with the suspect head. However,, in this instance,, I have tried all different uses of detergents and cleaners. The BEST way to remove "operation milkshake" (which is what we dubbed it) is to drain both block drains,, and fill the coolant system with DIESEL!!! Mark it down,, I'm the first to ever mention it on here,, but I have done it numerous times and it will remove it ALL on the first flush. Just get the fuel out very quickly after it gets to temp ( maybe 20 min run time). Do not call it a night until getting the diesel out tho. I start with diesel,, then dishsoap (foamy as heck),, then cascade. I have kept the radiators n hoses on these repairs (these customers always get new ones) because there are always certain customers that simply cannot afford a new rad, or coolant y pipe or something so I give them those as a bit of charity. Hopefully I didn't confuse anyone with this long paragraph. Lol.
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You are truly a "top-tier" service guy!!
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And most of the time a new radiator is getting stacked on top thousand in repairs, I can see where some people would want to save when they can. And it's nice to have someone that helps them do that.
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My experience with testing for fuel/coolant contamination (which I doubt that is this issue) is to pull the block drains and run the fuel pump. The leak would take hours to notice using degas pressure. If its fuel in coolant,, it will flow (drip actually)out of the block drain associated with the suspect head. However,, in this instance,, I have tried all different uses of detergents and cleaners. The BEST way to remove "operation milkshake" (which is what we dubbed it) is to drain both block drains,, and fill the coolant system with DIESEL!!! Mark it down,, I'm the first to ever mention it on here,, but I have done it numerous times and it will remove it ALL on the first flush. Just get the fuel out very quickly after it gets to temp ( maybe 20 min run time). Do not call it a night until getting the diesel out tho. I start with diesel,, then dishsoap (foamy as heck),, then cascade. I have kept the radiators n hoses on these repairs (these customers always get new ones) because there are always certain customers that simply cannot afford a new rad, or coolant y pipe or something so I give them those as a bit of charity. Hopefully I didn't confuse anyone with this long paragraph. Lol.
I'm a little confused on the lower portion of the contents. Are you suggesting that with your style of flush, a new rad, hoses ect is not necessary? Or were you stating that the people that opt not to end up having to replace it anyways in the future?
Cheers
Ryan
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