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Old 05-24-2014, 08:17 AM
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Because California has 52.89 cents per gallon taxes and Arizona has 19 cents per gallon taxes.

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Because California has 52.89 cents per gallon taxes and Arizona has 19 cents per gallon taxes.
I think there should be a law requiring full disclosure of all taxes included in our gas price right on the pumps. - but that would require a law to be enacted by the very ones who sneak all those taxes in on us
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Just filled up the van to an ethanol free average of 13.5 MPG. this is under ideal driving conditions, nearly perfect.

Conclusion : Ethanol-free gasoline is not worth the money in a V10 van.
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Just filled up the van to an ethanol free average of 13.5 MPG. this is under ideal driving conditions, nearly perfect.

Conclusion : Ethanol-free gasoline is not worth the money in a V10 van.
BS. Let than van sit for a month or two without fresh gas in that hot humid Florida air you may change your mind. All gas losses octane but ethanol drops 1 point a week when it's hot out and sucks water out of the air like a sponge. In a daily driver with weekly fill ups your OK but if your van is more like an RV that sits like mine that ethanol turns brown and gummy and makes the engine knock after a month or two. I would never buy it if given a choice.
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BS. Let than van sit for a month or two without fresh gas in that hot humid Florida air you may change your mind. All gas losses octane but ethanol drops 1 point a week when it's hot out and sucks water out of the air like a sponge. In a daily driver with weekly fill ups your OK but if your van is more like an RV that sits like mine that ethanol turns brown and gummy and makes the engine knock after a month or two. I would never buy it if given a choice.
First I've spent a few late summers and 3 winters in Florida and the gas down there isn't the best on a good day, I've left our car for just short of 2 years once and 7 to 8 months for 6 years with E10 in the tank with no problems, not in Florida. But it's run on E10 from new so the system is clean. If you want to know where the brown stuff comes from take a glass container with ethanol in it and one with straight gas and let them evaporate and see witch one has the brown stuff in it. Ethanol is straight pure corn alcohol when it leaves the plant (white lightning) and the only time it gets anything added is when it gets mixed with gas, it is a good solvent and will clean all the junk left behind from straight gas.

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Stumpalump, what part of my post/experiment are you calling BS?
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I call BS as well. BoatUS Magazine: Three Ethanol Myths Clarified
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I guess that's why my new Sears lawn mower had to get sent back to the Texas service center due to E10 eating all of the fuel lines and clogging the carb. They had to replace all of the fuel lines and told me to buy non-ethanol whenever possible. Funny, but I will still buy non-ethanol whenever possible in my V-10. Most marine fuel is non-ethanol. Must be a good reason regardless of what BoatUS says.
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Are you calling BS on my post/experiment? Or are you referring to the other claims about ethanol?

My post was just about improving fuel economy by using ethanol-free fuel...
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Are you calling BS on my post/experiment? Or are you referring to the other claims about ethanol?

My post was just about improving fuel economy by using ethanol-free fuel...
No no no...I'm sorry, I was calling BS about ethanol losing a point of octane a week and other claims.

I've run ethanol and non-ethanol and like you have had similar results

Sorry bout the confusion,
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Mechanics of all types of gasoline engines love ethanol, it has paid for their vacation homes.

To me ethanol is junk with no good purpose in gasoline.

I primarily run "Up to 10% ethanol" in my truck because when I travel I have no choice but to fill up with the crap and I want my truck to get used to it per say. When I do fill my truck up with pure gas it runs smoother with far less detonation. The biggest difference is during the winter. The pure gas 87 octane gets rid of all the detonation and when E10 is put back the detonation returns. It is primarily when lugged that detonation happens and I can hear it more due to the headers. I am going to have to change the line to my carbon canister because it doesn't look too great. I have seen rubber ruined by ethanol before and that is what the hose looks like.

All my boats and other equipment gets pure gas though.
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