My 99 HPOP reservoir leakdown troubleshooting
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My 99 HPOP reservoir leakdown troubleshooting
My son's E99 7.3 started having the dreaded HPOP bleed down. If he shut it down hot, the res would be empty overnight. If we filled it cold, and left it, it would bleed a little over night.
After reading every posting I could find, I dug into the truck. I purchased every gasket for the HPOP and reservoir from Ford.
I pulled the top cover, and saw the reservoir has the tube that extends to the top of the reservoir. This would mean the check ball in the block has nothing to do with the issue.
The reservoir to front cover gasket looked ok. Pulled the gear on the HPOP, and it's seal looked OK. I was expecting to find leakage into the front cover.
I topped up the reservoir part of the front cover, and it bleed down about 1" overnight.
So, I got some of that oil fluorescent dye, put about 1/2 oz into the oil in the front cover, and stirred it up. Kept adding oil to it for 4 days. Then I examined everything external with the UV light. Nothing.
Examined the HPOP input shaft seal, nothing.
Disconnected the HP oil hose at the right head, nothing.
Disconnected the HP oil hose at the left head, had dye in it!!!
Pulled off the valve cover, and found dye running down from the #8 injector.
Now to get a set of seals for the injectors on that side.
Have pix of the dye with UV light but can't post it
After reading every posting I could find, I dug into the truck. I purchased every gasket for the HPOP and reservoir from Ford.
I pulled the top cover, and saw the reservoir has the tube that extends to the top of the reservoir. This would mean the check ball in the block has nothing to do with the issue.
The reservoir to front cover gasket looked ok. Pulled the gear on the HPOP, and it's seal looked OK. I was expecting to find leakage into the front cover.
I topped up the reservoir part of the front cover, and it bleed down about 1" overnight.
So, I got some of that oil fluorescent dye, put about 1/2 oz into the oil in the front cover, and stirred it up. Kept adding oil to it for 4 days. Then I examined everything external with the UV light. Nothing.
Examined the HPOP input shaft seal, nothing.
Disconnected the HP oil hose at the right head, nothing.
Disconnected the HP oil hose at the left head, had dye in it!!!
Pulled off the valve cover, and found dye running down from the #8 injector.
Now to get a set of seals for the injectors on that side.
Have pix of the dye with UV light but can't post it
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Others should chime in on this, I'm not sure if having bad GP's could damage the UVCH or wiring connections on the other side. Yeah, those lower pass VC bolts are a pain, but it's not that bad.
There are lots of threads on FTE, (a few here and here), about pulling sticks and cleaning the injector cups and bolt threads. Read 'em and ask questions. You really don't want to go under there again.
There are lots of threads on FTE, (a few here and here), about pulling sticks and cleaning the injector cups and bolt threads. Read 'em and ask questions. You really don't want to go under there again.
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Pulled #8 tonight. Upper ring is blown out.
But, looking at it, I realized the steel ring was BETWEEN the square ring and the O-ring. No wonder it blew.
Pulled # 6 to check, and it was OK. #4 was wrong, #2 was OK.
The rings don't look like the ones I got from diesel orings.
Putting on the new rings now.
PS, #8 was so bad, I put air to the oil rail, and oil/foam sputtered out of the base of the injector. Just checking to see that it was at the base and not out the deflector
But, looking at it, I realized the steel ring was BETWEEN the square ring and the O-ring. No wonder it blew.
Pulled # 6 to check, and it was OK. #4 was wrong, #2 was OK.
The rings don't look like the ones I got from diesel orings.
Putting on the new rings now.
PS, #8 was so bad, I put air to the oil rail, and oil/foam sputtered out of the base of the injector. Just checking to see that it was at the base and not out the deflector
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#8 injector
Notice the oring placement
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Notice twist of square oring (it is in wrong place, should have the steel on top)
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This is the disintegrated lower oring
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Notice the oring placement
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Notice twist of square oring (it is in wrong place, should have the steel on top)
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This is the disintegrated lower oring
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