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Old 02-09-2014, 10:32 PM
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harmonic balancer noise?

I have a 2000 mountaineer 5.0 that has a chirp/squeek when its cold and goes away once warmed up good occasionally. I have replaced the belt, alternator and manually spun all the idler pullies, water pump, ac and tensioner. Nothing squeeks. Is it possible for the harmonic balancer to make this noise?
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Old 02-10-2014, 04:47 AM
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Not likely. Have you tried to hear the noise with a stethoscope....a piece of old garden hose. Be careful not to get in any moving parts.
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Old 02-10-2014, 07:39 AM
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Yep tried the hose but couldnt pinpoint it or really even get a ballpark area. Its just really loud and annoying haha
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Old 02-10-2014, 09:36 PM
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Did you have the noise before you replaced the alternator? Have you replaced anything else (PS pump?) with a pulley? You could have a pulley alignment issue.

I had this problem on two of my Fords. It was worse on damp mornings, which is 10 months out of the year where I live. I replaced the belt and that only fixed the problem for a few months. Then I replaced the belt and tensioner and the problem was solved. The problem wasn't with the bearings in the tensioner, it was with the tensioner spring. The spring in the tensioners relax over time. Not saying it's definitely the tensioner, but something to consider.
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Old 02-10-2014, 10:07 PM
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Nope didnt change anything before it happened. One morning it screeched for a long time constant then started chirping. It stops once its warmed up.
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Old 02-11-2014, 01:32 PM
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Still sounds like a bad idler pulley.

When you spun the idler pulleys, did they stop spinning right away, or keep freewheeling? If they freewheel, then there is not enough grease in them.

Had this happen multiple times on many different brands of vehicles. They won't squeak when you spin them, but put tension and a load on them, they will squeak. Noise goes away when they warm up because little bit of grease left in there loosens up.
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Old 02-11-2014, 05:09 PM
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Ya they spin real free. I will replace them and go from there.
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:50 PM
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Something else to consider is the Alternator. My Explorer started squeaking recently and I thought it was my idler pulleys again. Turns out they were fine. I spun my alternator and it spun very freely.

I took the alternator apart and got a bit of grease in the bearings and it is better but I suspect I will be replacing it soon.

It's just my snowplow at the moment, if it was a daily driver I would probably get another alternator.
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Old 02-14-2014, 05:08 PM
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Well thats what i thought it was initially so i replaced it. Still did it. Last nite i replaced the tensioner pulley and both idler pulleys. Still does it. Water pump is new so all that is left is balancer and ac and i know its not the ac. When i replaced the water pump the kit came with a collar to put on the balancer for the wear from the front main seal. Im wondering if that thing is spinning on the balancer. Im pulling it tonite to check
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Old 02-15-2014, 01:18 PM
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OK boys and girls, basically the whole front of the motor is replaced. I replaced the timing gears and chain along with the water pump about 5 months ago. about a month ago I started getting this horrible squeak like a belt. it started with a real long constant squeal one morning and stopped and proceeded to make a very on beat squeak until warmed up. I replaced the alternator, belt, all idler pulleys, tensioner pulley and ac clutch. still squeeks so I took off the belt and it still squeeks so that leaves the harmonic balancer. so I pulled it off and it seems fine. So then I proceeded to turn over the engine with the crank bolt with the balancer off and I can still here the squeak. Now I am baffled. What in the world is in the engine that would squeak like that until its warm? bearings, rods and lifters usually knock. oil pressure is great, doesn't overheat or leak and it runs perfectly. any thoughts are greatly appreciated. I hate to tear it down to find it but am also afraid if I ignore it the engine will eventually just have a complete catastrophic disaster.
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Old 02-15-2014, 05:16 PM
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Its the camshaft synchronizer.
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Old 02-16-2014, 12:36 AM
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Good for you for sticking to it, must have been somewhat discouraging replacing all that stuff and it was still squeaking.

How hard is it to change the sychronizer? My exploder is the OHV engine, so I'm not familiar with that.

How did you determine this to be the problem?
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Old 02-16-2014, 09:54 AM
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I did a google search for 5.0 chirping and i guess it is a fairly common failure on the v8s around 80-100k. And every story i read was the same as mine. Replacing everything until nothing was left to replace. I guess its a poor oiling system on them and the bearing burns out. You remove the coil packs on the 5.0 and its where the distributor usually is. Popped it out and turned it and sure enough its squeeky as hell. Got one ordered. Also read not to get the doorman replacement due to poor quality.
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Old 02-16-2014, 09:56 AM
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Not sure where it would be on the OHV engine. Sorry
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seems to be common, wish ford would step up to the plate on this one


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