What's a decent OBD scanner?
#1
What's a decent OBD scanner?
I'm tempted to go buy a code scanner.
What's your recommendation for one that performs reasonably well for our trucks in terms of being able to check Ford-diesel specific codes/PID's. Realtime logging would be good. I'm looking for something beyond the simple code-reader and would like to be able to read individual sensors for debugging.
AutoEnginuity looks extremely useful, but I'm not sure I'm willing to invest so much $$ as an 'above-average' weekend user. I see some OBD adapters that hook to laptops...what are some of the better debugging tools that use those? How about those handheld Innova/Equus units?
Any experience that you can share would be great!
What's your recommendation for one that performs reasonably well for our trucks in terms of being able to check Ford-diesel specific codes/PID's. Realtime logging would be good. I'm looking for something beyond the simple code-reader and would like to be able to read individual sensors for debugging.
AutoEnginuity looks extremely useful, but I'm not sure I'm willing to invest so much $$ as an 'above-average' weekend user. I see some OBD adapters that hook to laptops...what are some of the better debugging tools that use those? How about those handheld Innova/Equus units?
Any experience that you can share would be great!
#2
I have the AutoEnginuity unit and honestly couldn't recommend anything cheaper. You obviously want something that can read the specific codes as well as interface with the different CAN-controlled modules in your truck. Unfortunately something cheaper will likely not have the same capabilities and may leave you disappointed.
I can log data, view live data from nearly any sensor I want, reprogram tire sizes, reprogram PATS keys, initiate a cylinder power balance test, as well as a host of other functions that many simple scan tools can't. I paid $399 for the Ford bundle and think it to be a good value compared to the other full-featured scan tools that are out there.
I highly recommend it!
I can log data, view live data from nearly any sensor I want, reprogram tire sizes, reprogram PATS keys, initiate a cylinder power balance test, as well as a host of other functions that many simple scan tools can't. I paid $399 for the Ford bundle and think it to be a good value compared to the other full-featured scan tools that are out there.
I highly recommend it!
#5
The Scanguage II, which you really should have anyway to keep an eye on DPF temp, oil temp, trans temp, etc. also has code reader functionality. Beyond that Autoenginuity is the best low cost live data scanner I know of. I have both, and the next step after that if I found the need would be straight to the $$$$ Ford VCM/IDS setup.
#7
The Scanguage II, which you really should have anyway to keep an eye on DPF temp, oil temp, trans temp, etc. also has code reader functionality. Beyond that Autoenginuity is the best low cost live data scanner I know of. I have both, and the next step after that if I found the need would be straight to the $$$$ Ford VCM/IDS setup.
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#8
Yeah, ideally, having the Ford IDS would be ideal, but a 4-digit price tag is a bit extreme
I was looking at the Innova/Equus scan tool. Looks like it sees all of the IM flags which is convenient. Does it give any other vehicle specific information like PCM/TCM CAL versions or DPF load or regen status (wishful thinking) I assume Autenginuity shows all of that?
I was looking at the Innova/Equus scan tool. Looks like it sees all of the IM flags which is convenient. Does it give any other vehicle specific information like PCM/TCM CAL versions or DPF load or regen status (wishful thinking) I assume Autenginuity shows all of that?
#9
Ford Specific XGauges : Linear Logic : Home of the ScanGauge
It's a bit of a pain to enter all of it, would be nice if they provided a USB interface for programming, but it doesn't take that long to enter.
#10
#11
The Ford 6.4 specific Xgauge information is here:
Ford Specific XGauges : Linear Logic : Home of the ScanGauge
It's a bit of a pain to enter all of it, would be nice if they provided a USB interface for programming, but it doesn't take that long to enter.
Ford Specific XGauges : Linear Logic : Home of the ScanGauge
It's a bit of a pain to enter all of it, would be nice if they provided a USB interface for programming, but it doesn't take that long to enter.
#12
I have had AutoEnginuity (Ford, GM, Toyota bundle) for many years; I think you will find it hard to beat.
I have a AutoXray EZ Scan 6000 that I have had since that model first came out (it was an upgrade to earlier model). I have the EZ-Charge with the Midtronics conductance battery load testing add-on. I usually use the 6000 to read codes in other people's vehicles, etc. because it is quick and easy vs. dragging my laptop out.
You can look cylinder injector trim values with AE; some believe this can be an indicator of problem pending. I would like to have Chrysler but it wasn't offered when I purchased AE (and they won't trade my Toyota for same). AE will allow you to look at many different modules on your Ford; I don't think most of the lower cost scan tools will allow same. (ABS, GEM, Transmission, etc.) I am going from memory and cannot remember them all. Like Tom said you can do PATS key programming; and you can look up that missing door keypad code.
I would love to have the Ford Rotunda IDS VCM; too much money; but stay away from the low cost copycat Chinese clones.
I would buy a Scangauge II if I could look at the miles since last regen; this is another PID I can look at with AE, but I don't want to lug a laptop on the console all the time. I fabbed a platform that dropped in the cup holders on my 06, angled toward driver with a strap to secure the laptop; but haven't done same for the 08.
I think AE is good value for price.
Bob
I have a AutoXray EZ Scan 6000 that I have had since that model first came out (it was an upgrade to earlier model). I have the EZ-Charge with the Midtronics conductance battery load testing add-on. I usually use the 6000 to read codes in other people's vehicles, etc. because it is quick and easy vs. dragging my laptop out.
You can look cylinder injector trim values with AE; some believe this can be an indicator of problem pending. I would like to have Chrysler but it wasn't offered when I purchased AE (and they won't trade my Toyota for same). AE will allow you to look at many different modules on your Ford; I don't think most of the lower cost scan tools will allow same. (ABS, GEM, Transmission, etc.) I am going from memory and cannot remember them all. Like Tom said you can do PATS key programming; and you can look up that missing door keypad code.
I would love to have the Ford Rotunda IDS VCM; too much money; but stay away from the low cost copycat Chinese clones.
I would buy a Scangauge II if I could look at the miles since last regen; this is another PID I can look at with AE, but I don't want to lug a laptop on the console all the time. I fabbed a platform that dropped in the cup holders on my 06, angled toward driver with a strap to secure the laptop; but haven't done same for the 08.
I think AE is good value for price.
Bob
#13
I have had AutoEnginuity (Ford, GM, Toyota bundle) for many years; I think you will find it hard to beat.
I have a AutoXray EZ Scan 6000 that I have had since that model first came out (it was an upgrade to earlier model). I have the EZ-Charge with the Midtronics conductance battery load testing add-on. I usually use the 6000 to read codes in other people's vehicles, etc. because it is quick and easy vs. dragging my laptop out.
You can look cylinder injector trim values with AE; some believe this can be an indicator of problem pending. I would like to have Chrysler but it wasn't offered when I purchased AE (and they won't trade my Toyota for same). AE will allow you to look at many different modules on your Ford; I don't think most of the lower cost scan tools will allow same. (ABS, GEM, Transmission, etc.) I am going from memory and cannot remember them all. Like Tom said you can do PATS key programming; and you can look up that missing door keypad code.
I would love to have the Ford Rotunda IDS VCM; too much money; but stay away from the low cost copycat Chinese clones.
I would buy a Scangauge II if I could look at the miles since last regen; this is another PID I can look at with AE, but I don't want to lug a laptop on the console all the time. I fabbed a platform that dropped in the cup holders on my 06, angled toward driver with a strap to secure the laptop; but haven't done same for the 08.
I think AE is good value for price.
Bob
I have a AutoXray EZ Scan 6000 that I have had since that model first came out (it was an upgrade to earlier model). I have the EZ-Charge with the Midtronics conductance battery load testing add-on. I usually use the 6000 to read codes in other people's vehicles, etc. because it is quick and easy vs. dragging my laptop out.
You can look cylinder injector trim values with AE; some believe this can be an indicator of problem pending. I would like to have Chrysler but it wasn't offered when I purchased AE (and they won't trade my Toyota for same). AE will allow you to look at many different modules on your Ford; I don't think most of the lower cost scan tools will allow same. (ABS, GEM, Transmission, etc.) I am going from memory and cannot remember them all. Like Tom said you can do PATS key programming; and you can look up that missing door keypad code.
I would love to have the Ford Rotunda IDS VCM; too much money; but stay away from the low cost copycat Chinese clones.
I would buy a Scangauge II if I could look at the miles since last regen; this is another PID I can look at with AE, but I don't want to lug a laptop on the console all the time. I fabbed a platform that dropped in the cup holders on my 06, angled toward driver with a strap to secure the laptop; but haven't done same for the 08.
I think AE is good value for price.
Bob
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