3525 lbs/tire (load range D) - is that enough for a F350?
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3525 lbs/tire (load range D) - is that enough for a F350?
I was planning on installing 37x13.5x18 on my truck when it arrives. I thought the load rating was 3970/tire per one website, but after looking at Toyo’s site they are Ds and not Es as I thought.
We curently only have a TT so bumper pull and not much cargo need. We might consider a 5er in th future, but by then we’d probabty be looking at new tires or new truck.
Issues?
We curently only have a TT so bumper pull and not much cargo need. We might consider a 5er in th future, but by then we’d probabty be looking at new tires or new truck.
Issues?
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Check the rear axle GAWR spec on your truck’s cert label. For an SRW truck, each tire should be rated for one-half or more of the RGAWR.
Ford’s 18” and 20” wheels are rated for 3590 lbs., but Ford doesn’t seem to factor this limitation into some of their RGAWR figures.
HTH,
Jim / crewzer
Ford’s 18” and 20” wheels are rated for 3590 lbs., but Ford doesn’t seem to factor this limitation into some of their RGAWR figures.
HTH,
Jim / crewzer
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Why? I'm towing now with an F150 on stock A/S tires, so moving to a 37" MT on a S/D is going to be worlds different any way.. Fully inflated, they support 7,000 lbs/axle. That's in line with the stock Ford wheels as noted above; aftermarket wheels are rated at 3600 lbs.
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Tricon is right. Go E without second thought. The problem with 35's and 37's is lower payload and if you end up in an accident and they can determine you are under "tired" for your load and it had anything to do with the incident you won't like the financial outcome.
Play it safe and stick with something E rated.
Play it safe and stick with something E rated.
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#8
don't ask a question if you're not really ready for an answer that does not line up with your rationale.
Nothing more aggravating to me then those Tundra nuts rationalizing how they pull a 10k+ 5'vr with air bags yad yada yada.....
Same mindset here.
F-350 with its ratings are to be supported with E load range tires to meet those GVWR ratings.
Anything less and you are placing many others not just you and your family at risk.
A squishy ride would be the least of your problems.
However, it's your life and money. Hope I never drive anywhere near you.
Nothing more aggravating to me then those Tundra nuts rationalizing how they pull a 10k+ 5'vr with air bags yad yada yada.....
Same mindset here.
F-350 with its ratings are to be supported with E load range tires to meet those GVWR ratings.
Anything less and you are placing many others not just you and your family at risk.
A squishy ride would be the least of your problems.
However, it's your life and money. Hope I never drive anywhere near you.
#9
don't ask a question if you're not really ready for an answer that does not line up with your rationale.
Nothing more aggravating to me then those Tundra nuts rationalizing how they pull a 10k+ 5'vr with air bags yad yada yada.....
Same mindset here.
F-350 with its ratings are to be supported with E load range tires to meet those GVWR ratings.
Anything less and you are placing many others not just you and your family at risk.
A squishy ride would be the least of your problems.
However, it's your life and money. Hope I never drive anywhere near you.
Nothing more aggravating to me then those Tundra nuts rationalizing how they pull a 10k+ 5'vr with air bags yad yada yada.....
Same mindset here.
F-350 with its ratings are to be supported with E load range tires to meet those GVWR ratings.
Anything less and you are placing many others not just you and your family at risk.
A squishy ride would be the least of your problems.
However, it's your life and money. Hope I never drive anywhere near you.
You'll notice my response to Tricon was to ask if "feel" was the primary reason. If so, that's a subjective issue.
Now, if ~3600 lbs is too low for GVWR/RAGWR or any other objective issue, that's fine and that is the information I was looking for. SDcrewzer pointed out the stock wheels are only rated for ~3600 lbs, so I kept asking what was the real issue. Speaking of, how can Ford not get away with that if its a major (someone said legal) issue?
You'll note that I never argued with anyone or gave any suggestion I was here for confirmation bias. I just want to understand the reasons (i.e. facts) without all the emotional baggage from people who can't help but read a post and then insert their own assumptions.
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Tricon is right. Go E without second thought. The problem with 35's and 37's is lower payload and if you end up in an accident and they can determine you are under "tired" for your load and it had anything to do with the incident you won't like the financial outcome.
Play it safe and stick with something E rated.
Play it safe and stick with something E rated.
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I’d also caution against getting too wrapped around the axle on this “D vs. E” issue. For LT size tires, D just means that the maximum load rating is based on a maximum of 65 psi cold inflation pressure.. E means that max load is based on 80 psi.
And, E doesn’t necessarily mean 10-ply construction. IIRC, the E tires on our old 2017 F350 were six-ply construction.
Everything else being equal, an E tire will have a load rating higher than a D. However, a “big” D tire may have a higher load rating than a “small” E.
I don't know about how all of this applies to flotation tires, but it might be worth investigating. The key thing is to get tires with a load rating (in lbs.) high enough to meet the axles’s GAWR.
HTH,
Jim / crewzer
And, E doesn’t necessarily mean 10-ply construction. IIRC, the E tires on our old 2017 F350 were six-ply construction.
Everything else being equal, an E tire will have a load rating higher than a D. However, a “big” D tire may have a higher load rating than a “small” E.
I don't know about how all of this applies to flotation tires, but it might be worth investigating. The key thing is to get tires with a load rating (in lbs.) high enough to meet the axles’s GAWR.
HTH,
Jim / crewzer
#14
One of the local 4WP guys we deal with also suggested 20" wheels. I was hoping for a lower cost for 18s and a slightly improved ride, even though I like the look of the 20s as well, but don't want to create unnecessary risk. But here's where it gets confusing again...
37x13.5x18LT - load rating D, 3525 lbs max load (the tire I listed first)
37x12.5x18LT - load rating E, 3415 lbs max load
I thought Es always had a higher load limit than Ds, but that doesn't seem to be the case. They also make that same 37x12.5 tire in an F rating @ 3970 lbs, so dropping from a 13.5" wide to a 12.5" wide would also seem to do the trick. I'm just confused at how the smaller E tire supports less than the wider D.
But you're right though - going to a 20" rim size shortens the sidewall enough that they are all E or F rated. I did some quick poking around 4WPs site looking at other 37" tires of various rim sizes, and I'm not particularly thrilled with the choices (I know they're not the only place to get them, but it gives me some idea of how many options I'm like to have for a certain size). If memory serves, speccing 18" vs. 20" on the Stage 3 site as an example was around $700-ish in difference.
37x13.5x18LT - load rating D, 3525 lbs max load (the tire I listed first)
37x12.5x18LT - load rating E, 3415 lbs max load
I thought Es always had a higher load limit than Ds, but that doesn't seem to be the case. They also make that same 37x12.5 tire in an F rating @ 3970 lbs, so dropping from a 13.5" wide to a 12.5" wide would also seem to do the trick. I'm just confused at how the smaller E tire supports less than the wider D.
But you're right though - going to a 20" rim size shortens the sidewall enough that they are all E or F rated. I did some quick poking around 4WPs site looking at other 37" tires of various rim sizes, and I'm not particularly thrilled with the choices (I know they're not the only place to get them, but it gives me some idea of how many options I'm like to have for a certain size). If memory serves, speccing 18" vs. 20" on the Stage 3 site as an example was around $700-ish in difference.
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I’d also caution against getting too wrapped around the axle on this “D vs. E” issue. For LT size tires, D just means that the maximum load rating is based on a maximum of 65 psi cold inflation pressure.. E means that max load is based on 80 psi.
And, E doesn’t necessarily mean 10-ply construction. IIRC, the E tires on our old 2017 F350 were six-ply construction.
Everything else being equal, an E tire will have a load rating higher than a D. However, a “big” D tire may have a higher load rating than a “small” E.
I don't know about how all of this applies to flotation tires, but it might be worth investigating. The key thing is to get tires with a load rating (in lbs.) high enough to meet the axles’s GAWR.
HTH,
Jim / crewzer
And, E doesn’t necessarily mean 10-ply construction. IIRC, the E tires on our old 2017 F350 were six-ply construction.
Everything else being equal, an E tire will have a load rating higher than a D. However, a “big” D tire may have a higher load rating than a “small” E.
I don't know about how all of this applies to flotation tires, but it might be worth investigating. The key thing is to get tires with a load rating (in lbs.) high enough to meet the axles’s GAWR.
HTH,
Jim / crewzer