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Old 07-17-2018, 04:11 PM
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How to diagnose "Check Gas Cap" warning?


This is for my 2012 F250.

My list of what I'm going to try/have tried:

Done:
1. Get out and unscrew, then screw back on
2. Unscrew, fill to top with gas, screw back on

Haven't Done Yet:
1. Unplug battery cables to reset the sensor? (worked for Thread 1 OP) [actually just pull the PCM KAM fuse so I don't have to reset other electronics like radio, resetting computer will get rid of light but problem may remain]
2. Buy a new cap
3. Check fuel line from cap to tank and evap canister? (check vent hose from gas tank to canister)
4. Take rubber seal off and flip it over (may be a nick in seal) [could also add a little vaseline to gasket to get better seal) (clean any dirt or rust off till end of tank opening)
5. Remove gas cap, then start truck and let it run for a few minutes. Then turn off and turn back on. (Thread 2, Pokermunkee, Durango 2007)
6. Replace purge valve in fuel system, costs $200 (Thread 2, Mattster344, 2011 F250) ((also worked for Bigjeffs350, ths thread)
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Possible Causes
1. Hit a pot hole
2. Something leaking between tank and gas cap opening or canister?
3. Purge valve went bad

Previous Threads on this topic:
1. Fuel Cap Warning Light (For a 2008 5.4L Gas)
[url]https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1162946-fuel-cap-warning-light.html

2. 2011 F250 6.2 "Check Gas Cap" ?
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...k-gas-cap.html
 

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Old 07-17-2018, 04:29 PM
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clean the gas cap seal, might add a little of Vaseline to gasket.
check and see if dirt or rust is on the Fill end of tank where it meets the seal on gas cap
gas cap vent could be Bad... new cap.
bad vent hose from gas tank to canister..
 
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Old 07-17-2018, 04:40 PM
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Interesting....this happened on my 2011 F350 today too for the first time (about 100,000 miles). Didn’t go away after taking the cap off a few times. Have another truck I was going to switch caps with to see if that fixes it.

Never even knew this error message existed before today.


 
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Old 07-17-2018, 05:51 PM
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Check to see if the o-ring on the gas/fuel cap has a nick. Sometimes you can remove the o-ring and flip it over and it will seal.
 
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I had the same issue on my 2012 F350 a couple months ago. I researched it and found that the purge valve goes bad you will get the gas cap light. I replaced mine and the light never came on again...
 
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There are a number of things that can cause that message. It's important to actually go through the troubleshooting process to figure out what is wrong instead of just guessing.

Inspecting the gas cap and its sealing surfaces is the first step since those are the items that get a lot of physical wear and tear during normal operation.
 
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:37 AM
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For what it’s worth, I flipped the o-ring on my gas cap and nothing changed. Put a new gas cap on yesterday, started the engine, and still got the error message. Drove for about an hour today with the new gas cap on and noticed that the gas cap error message had disappeared, so evidently the systrm needs to run a bit to reset.

 
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During driving, he OBDII check for the gas cap requires that 1) A fill-up (or significant increase in fuel level) has to be detected and 2) The initial portion of an evaporative leak diagnostic be performed. The error cannot clear without both prerequisites and certainly won't be cleared just by starting the engine back up. The truck has to be driven.
 
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Originally Posted by projectSHO89
During driving, he OBDII check for the gas cap requires that 1) A fill-up (or significant increase in fuel level) has to be detected and 2) The initial portion of an evaporative leak diagnostic be performed. The error cannot clear without both prerequisites and certainly won't be cleared just by starting the engine back up. The truck has to be driven.

i didn’t put any gas in; tank was/is 3/4 full. Maybe the sloshing around the tank while driving around made the system think there was more fuel in there. Who knows....message is gone at least.


 
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In that case, your PCM probably ran the whole EVAP test procedure and, since it passed, cleared the gas cap status message.
 
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I bought a new (locking, non OEM) gas cap and will get and test in a few days.
 
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Originally Posted by slogward
I bought a new (locking, non OEM) gas cap and will get and test in a few days.
after the message went away with the new gas cap, I stuck my old gas cap with the rubber seal/o-ring flipped over back on today just to see if that fixed it (because when I tried that before, I didn’t run the truck long enough for the system to reset). So far the message has not come back on.

While you’re waiting for your new gas cap, keep the old one on with the seal flipped over to see if maybe that fixes it after driving awhile.
 
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Canister purge valve. I’ve replaced them in two different Subaru’s, a Hyundai, Honda Element and 3 other cars (people I know). Fixed the CEL every time.

The only time I have seen a gas cap fail is when my wife actually drove off without it.

— Dave
 
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Canister purge valve.
Maybe, maybe not. There's a good reason for doing the actual diagnostic work.
I’ve replaced them in two different Subaru’s, a Hyundai, Honda Element and 3 other cars (people I know).
None of those were Fords.
The only time I have seen a gas cap fail...
I've had several of them on FORDS that caused EVAP system leaks. I've never had a Subaru, A Hyundai, or a Honda.
 
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Fuel pump gasket will cause this too. Clear all codes with your OBD tester and it's doubtful you will see this again in the next 3-6 months. I had this pop-up after changing the pump after about 6 months, and since it's a PITA to get to the tank, I found later that I had just not seated the pump well enough.
 


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