3 speed swap to 5 speed manual tranny
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3 speed swap to 5 speed manual tranny
I have a 77 f-150 with a In line 6 with a 3 speed on the column and I want to swap to a 5 speed on the floor. It is my understanding that a M5OD-R1/2 from a mid 90s ford ranger has the same bell housing as my 77 ford truck. At the same time, the 77 inline 6 block should be the same as the mid 80s inline 6 block, so the bell housing should match up to my 77 block. If this is incorrect, would someone please explain to me which model year M5OD-R1/2 would fit up to my bell housing, or if I had any other options for a 5 speed swap.
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I actually performed this swap in a 77 from automatic when I was 19 with no experience. I pulled a five speed with pedal assembly and hydraulic clutch from a 90s model f100. I think the bell housing bolts were different but I used some grade 8 bolts and nuts from tractor supply to make them match up lol. I also had to drill new holes for the cross member in my frame. I don't believe I needed a different driveshaft, it was just the mounts were different. Don't be discouraged. I'm only 24 now and was guessing at best with no prior knowledge, if I can do it you can do it.
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I'm at work now, but if need be I can take pictures. My truck is beat all to **** and rusty but I paid 700 for it with my own money back in high school and I'm damn proud to own it. I'm actually doing a complete rebuild since my wiring harness caught fire a couple years ago. If I get the chance tonight or tomorrow I can take pictures of what I had to do. Since yours is already a manual you have your work cut out for you. Just have to drill holes for the cross member, which I still got to use my original cross member. I think I mounted it on top of the rails. Good luck and keep me posted.
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Alright, so I called my dad and he looked underneath. All we did was mount the transmission with the crossmember attached and get it flush. Then we drilled into the frame where the cross member holes lined up. I'm not sure if there was any clearance issues as to why we mounted the crossmember from the bottom but I drove it for 3 years like this and never had an issue. As mine was an automatic I had to drill holes in the firewall to mount the reservoir for the hydraulic clutch. It honestly is a straight forward job. If I had to do anything twice I would measure and trace where the reservoir mounts up. I did some sloppy work with mine and will have to go back in and redo some of the sheet metal, but as far as function it served it's purpose without a hiccup. We have plenty of room to work with in the cab, hood and underneath it, there's no doubt in my mind you can do this job. I got lucky with sourcing a transmission and hydraulic set up from a local friend/junk yard but there should be some old work trucks at the junk yard around that year model with that set up. If you have any questions I'll be glad to help as best I can and post pictures! I love these models.
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I don't know about the lightweight Ranger transmission but the F150 M5R2 is a good swap. If you have the 6 or 302 or 351 from the 70s then it is a direct connection to the motor. The larger motor (I'm not going to say Big block because that's a GM thing) will mount to the larger motors transmissions. The 2 Ford swaps are the M5R2 and the ZF5. The ZF5 was a heavy duty transmission.
The hardest thing about the swap is figuring out how to fabricate a lever arm that goes from the existing clutch linkage under the dash to the new clutch master.
I had just posted some stuff about this swap. Do some searching and you'll find some more details.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...2-or-m5r2.html
The hardest thing about the swap is figuring out how to fabricate a lever arm that goes from the existing clutch linkage under the dash to the new clutch master.
I had just posted some stuff about this swap. Do some searching and you'll find some more details.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...2-or-m5r2.html
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I don't know about the lightweight Ranger transmission but the F150 M5R2 is a good swap. If you have the 6 or 302 or 351 from the 70s then it is a direct connection to the motor. The larger motor (I'm not going to say Big block because that's a GM thing) will mount to the larger motors transmissions. The 2 Ford swaps are the M5R2 and the ZF5. The ZF5 was a heavy duty transmission.
The hardest thing about the swap is figuring out how to fabricate a lever arm that goes from the existing clutch linkage under the dash to the new clutch master.
I had just posted some stuff about this swap. Do some searching and you'll find some more details.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...2-or-m5r2.html
The hardest thing about the swap is figuring out how to fabricate a lever arm that goes from the existing clutch linkage under the dash to the new clutch master.
I had just posted some stuff about this swap. Do some searching and you'll find some more details.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...2-or-m5r2.html
and the ZF5. The ZF5 was a heavy duty transmission. Require a hydraulic clutch as well
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The ZF has its own bellhousing and doesn't bolt to your engine. The M5R2 has its own bellhousing too and came stock behind 4.9 (300) sixes in some years. Wikipedia has a nice listing.
The dumptruck transmission won't bolt to your bellhousing and is impractical for many reasons.
It looks like you have one choice that really works. Get after it!
R.
The dumptruck transmission won't bolt to your bellhousing and is impractical for many reasons.
It looks like you have one choice that really works. Get after it!
R.
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