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These are the wheels on the rear of my '64 f100. I would like to put dog dish type hubcaps but I don't know what truck they came off from. They are 15", have G78/15 tires on them and take a hubcap that must be just a little over 11". Anyone know what they originally came on?
Let’s start with the tires. A G78-15” tire was spec’d for a 5.50” rim. If you actually have a GR78-15” radial, they were spec’d for a 6.00” rim. So assuming the 5.50” is what you have, my references show that it is probably a 1966-1973 (or later) Kelsey Hayes 73815 / NWRA X-40026. Outie hub cap mounting. I find four Ford numbers assigned to K-H 73815. They are C6TZ 1007-A, C7TZ 1007-B, C8TZ 1007-D, and D2TZ 1015-B. My O.S.I. books are all for older years so Bill will have to check me on this, but no doubt the D2TZ 1015-B was itself superseded by some later number as Ford took pleasure in giving their parts guys whiplash with all their number changes. K-H references stopped giving hub cap mounting diameters in 1959. Stu
Okay, I started to mention this on the first reply but thought it too much of a reach. But maybe not. K-H shows #31389 used by 1949 Lincolns and Cosmos being a 15” x 6.00” and having an 11.140” RB style outie hub cap mounting (the C measurement in the chart). Standard Ford 5 x 5.50” mounting. No other K-H wheel fitting the size and bolt pattern has a hub cap mounting circle that wide, at least through the years for which they provide that data. It’s possible that you might find markings on your wheels showing another manufacturer. Both Budd and Motor Wheel Corporation produced car and light truck wheels back then, but K-H was by far the most common. And neither Budd nor MW references cite any hub cap mounting data. Stu
Let’s start with the tires. A G78-15” tire was spec’d for a 5.50” rim. If you actually have a GR78-15” radial, they were spec’d for a 6.00” rim. So assuming the 5.50” is what you have, my references show that it is probably a 1966-1973 (or later) Kelsey Hayes 73815 / NWRA X-40026. Outie hub cap mounting.
I find four Ford numbers assigned to K-H 73815. They are C6TZ 1007-A, C7TZ 1007-B, C8TZ 1007-D, and D2TZ 1015-B.
My O.S.I. books are all for older years so Bill will have to check me on this, but no doubt the D2TZ 1015-B was itself superseded by some later number as Ford took pleasure in giving their parts guys whiplash with all their number changes. K-H references stopped giving hub cap mounting diameters in 1959. Stu
G78-15 probably introduced in 1968 as it was listed for F100 & E200 (introduced 1968): 5 lug 15" x 5.5" wheel on a 5.50" bolt circle. I can post a pic of this info.
1966 F100 Outie hubcap: TYPE 2 in pic. Same hubcap (C4AZ-1130-A stainless - 10 1/4" O.D.) as 1964 Galaxie. There were also two painted F100 versions.
1961/65 F100: Only innie wheels/hubcaps were available, innie hubcaps (9 1/2" O.D.) is TYPE 1 in pic. Stainless and two painted versions were available.
btw: My 1965 F100 (I purchased it new 3/1965) came with painted white innie wheels with white painted w/red Ford letters TYPE 1 hubcaps & 7.75-15 blackwall tires.
The hubcaps went bye-bye the 2nd day, replaced them with NOS 1952 Packard wheel covers. I also painted the wheels black.
Thanks NumberDummy, I have a set of the #1 caps but they won't fit the rear wheels. Maybe I will have to look for a nice set of full wheel covers until I can find a couple of original wheels. I would eventually like to paint the wheels off white with the silver painted hub caps. I think it would look good with the Holley green.
Based upon NumberDummy info, the 1966 f100 did not come with the type 4 dog dish. Is that correct?
I have looked at a bunch of other threads. I see it listed in section 12 of the parts book and ND post as 65 and up.
Reset time. Photo shown is a '67-'72 F 100 or '68-'72 Econoline Type 3 fit bump style wheels, ND '65 F 100 came with Type 1 fit innie tab style wheels ( same as '61-'64). The '66 F 100 came standard with Type 2 fit bump style wheels, unless it was ordered with optional 15" 2 piece rims or 17.5" 1 piece rims (came with Type 1 and carryover innie tab wheels). Type 4 used only on '67-'77 F 250 or F 350. Note some '67 F 100 Camper Specials came with 15" 2 piece innie tab rims and used Type 1 caps also.. .
They never came off a truck, they came off a ford car. IMO, they came off a mid 60's ford full size car or station wagon etc.
Wheel in post #1 is on a 1964 F100 (5 lug, 5.50" bolt circle), so it cannot be from a car. 1949/72 full sized cars have 5 lug wheels on a 4.50" bolt circle.
It cannot be from a 1949/51 Mercury either, as it shares the 4.50" bolt circle.
The F100 hubcap pictured in post #7 is TYPE 3 (1967/72 F100).
TYPE 4 = 1967/77 F250/350, 1969/74 E300; 1975/77 E250/350.
05-27-2018, 08:16 PM
