Had to hit the starter solenoid with a hammer
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Had to hit the starter solenoid with a hammer
It was giving me one loud CLICK. I tried to start it 20 times. It was a lot of glowing and one loud click. Tried the relay jump. CLICK at the starter. Tapped the starter solenoid with a hammer and it turned over. It turned over a lot before firing which hi thought was off because of all the glowing. When it started I heard the starter drag.
Sounds like I need a starter. For some reason I recall there are two starters for these. Which one should I get?
1986 F250 6.9 IDI T19 4x4 supercab.
Sounds like I need a starter. For some reason I recall there are two starters for these. Which one should I get?
1986 F250 6.9 IDI T19 4x4 supercab.
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There's actually 3 or 4 different starters for the IDI. They all work, but I'm trying to find the discussion we had on them recently. O Reilly's sells the open face design like the power stroke uses (Mitsubishi?). I used one when I put the 7.3 in my '85. I never had an IDI turn over so fast! And my batteries are getting old and tired too, but it spins like crazy.
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Here's one discussion. Somewhere there's a good thread that has pictures of the various starters, but I couldn't find it.
Ignore where I erroneously called it a straight drive, Jared edified me by explaining it is a planetary gear reduction:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post13976983
Here's the O Reillys part:
Ultima® 19418 - Starter | O'Reilly Auto Parts
Ignore where I erroneously called it a straight drive, Jared edified me by explaining it is a planetary gear reduction:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post13976983
Here's the O Reillys part:
Ultima® 19418 - Starter | O'Reilly Auto Parts
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I'd say non-issue as I have a SMF myself.
I do not know if there is anything to the SMF vs DMF vs Auto vs Manual discussion. ADAIK they are all interchangeable, but maybe someone with specific data will chime in.
I do not know if there is anything to the SMF vs DMF vs Auto vs Manual discussion. ADAIK they are all interchangeable, but maybe someone with specific data will chime in.
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Stock is a planetary in line gear reduction. The sooper dooper starter is a multiple spur gear reduction and it starts like a direct injected engine with it. I got one for my buddy's truck off ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-FORD-TRUCK-6-9L-7-3L-DIESEL-STARTER-F150-F250-F350-1985-1994-HI-TORK-SND0027-/130682573081?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e6d49d119 and mine already had one when I bought it.
I think the SMF/DMF issue is moot from researching ZF5 conversion. Same starter is used. You have to bend the tab on the end of the battery wire to engage the post on this starter and it's a little tighter on one bolt, but still pretty easy. Vastly better starter.
I think the SMF/DMF issue is moot from researching ZF5 conversion. Same starter is used. You have to bend the tab on the end of the battery wire to engage the post on this starter and it's a little tighter on one bolt, but still pretty easy. Vastly better starter.
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That one on eBay looks good and the price is low. I think I'm going to order that one now.
Is this swap a PITA or not bad? Looks like a long extension is a must. Anyone know torque specs on the bolts?
Is this swap a PITA or not bad? Looks like a long extension is a must. Anyone know torque specs on the bolts?
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Don't be surprised at the "made in china" bling, but other than bending the tab on the battery wire, it's pretty straightforward. Bolts right in, works *REALLY* well. I think I used a wobble extension for the back bolt, but a universal would work too. Basically about the same as reinstalling a stocker. That is the same vendor I got my buddy's from. Really can't say much about the vendor though except that it showed up quick and worked.
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I'm still for the O Reillys one, it spins much faster than the standard gear reduction starter. But you can lead a horse to water....
Anyway, no, they're not that hard to change out, just use a long extension on the top bolt, one long enough to clear the entire starter motor and you'll be fine.
Anyway, no, they're not that hard to change out, just use a long extension on the top bolt, one long enough to clear the entire starter motor and you'll be fine.
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OMG holy WOW there is an even BIGGER one?!!!
DB Electrical - NEW STARTER FORD VAN F PICKUP TRUCK 7.3L NON-TURBO 1994
I got the 2.5kw ones and could hardly believe how strong and fast. But if I had known there was an even *bigger* one, I would have bought it.
Chevy-eater- I think we are all basically talking about the same starter, and are all drinking!
Edit: I found your mistubishi link in another thread. http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...&keyword=19418 Clearly not the same starter. I don't know which one is better, but the ones I linked are pretty unbelievable. It's like flipping a light switch, the engine is "on".
DB Electrical - NEW STARTER FORD VAN F PICKUP TRUCK 7.3L NON-TURBO 1994
I got the 2.5kw ones and could hardly believe how strong and fast. But if I had known there was an even *bigger* one, I would have bought it.
Chevy-eater- I think we are all basically talking about the same starter, and are all drinking!
Edit: I found your mistubishi link in another thread. http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...&keyword=19418 Clearly not the same starter. I don't know which one is better, but the ones I linked are pretty unbelievable. It's like flipping a light switch, the engine is "on".
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Got the starter out. To anyone doing this, uninstall the bolt at the top of the starter FIRST, then the bottom two.
The new starter will arrive tomorrow. I hope to slap it in and be done with it.
It appears as though I have a dipstick leak at the block.
The new starter will arrive tomorrow. I hope to slap it in and be done with it.
It appears as though I have a dipstick leak at the block.