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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 01:42 AM
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01 EXP motor Swap 5.4 to a 5.0

Hey guys! I don't get around very much, but i have a serious question for you gear heads. I have a Ford Racing 5.0 that was purchased from Jegs a couple of years ago and I want to put it into a 01 Expedition. Could you please help me out know what I need to make the swap? The motor is set up fro Fuel Injection so that part should be easy enough. I am wondering about the intake manifold and MAP sensor from the 5.4 working in the 5.0. I think I know the answer, but I wanted to ask. If it needs it I have no qualms about buying what ever is needed, but I am not mr moneybags either, LOL Any help in this matter would be fantastic. I can work on my diesels but gasser throws me a bit.


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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 07:15 AM
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You need to use a sensor that your FI system can read. Which FI system are you using? I would bet you can fit the MAP sensor but it is hard to say if it will work. I am a little humored by by your optomism with getting the engine to work in the Expy. Just because they are both fuel injected doesn't mean there will be anything easy about getting the 5.0 to run properly.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by GoFastPadre
Hey guys! I don't get around very much, but i have a serious question for you gear heads. I have a Ford Racing 5.0 that was purchased from Jegs a couple of years ago and I want to put it into a 01 Expedition. Could you please help me out know what I need to make the swap? The motor is set up fro Fuel Injection so that part should be easy enough. I am wondering about the intake manifold and MAP sensor from the 5.4 working in the 5.0. I think I know the answer, but I wanted to ask. If it needs it I have no qualms about buying what ever is needed, but I am not mr moneybags either, LOL Any help in this matter would be fantastic. I can work on my diesels but gasser throws me a bit.


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Chris, don't take this wrong...but if you're asking here what needs to be done-you're in WAY over your head.
Can it be done-Yep.
You'll need a PCM to control that 5.0L, a new trans, exhaust,etc,etc,etc,etc.
Plan on $10K or more for the parts to make it work, and hundreds of hours of labor. Then on top of that-you'll have a vehicle with absolutely no value since it won't be emissions legal.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 04:00 PM
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I think I would find a little Fox body 'Stang to put that motor in. It would be much more simple and more fun, not to mention a item you could re-sell when it is done.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 07:26 AM
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If you insist on putting it in an SUV you should find a V8 '96 to '98 Explorer or Mountaineer that needs a motor. Then its a plug n play job and you will be able to have fun in days or weeks at most.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 03:23 AM
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Why would you put a motor that makes no torque where you need it in somthing so heavy? If you realllly don't like the 5.4 and reallly have to have a sbf motor at least go with a 351
 
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 03:42 AM
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Why would you put a motor that makes no torque where you need it in somthing so heavy? If you realllly don't like the 5.4 and reallly have to have a sbf motor at least go with a 351
 
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 07:59 AM
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I put a 5.0 EFI in a 79 Bronco ..worked great. but you're going to need a trans that mates up with the small block .plus works in the expy. THAT WOULD THE HARDEST THING . The rest isn't to bad bascialy ford stock parts for the injection. The motors work great if built for it but for the amount of work I'd stick with a 5.4...redo it add some power goodies if thats what your looking for!
 
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I put a 5.0 EFI in a 79 Bronco ..worked great.
An expedition is heavier than an bronco.
 
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Besides being a hugh job this is a bad mismatch, the old 5.0 is a gutless wonder compared to the 5.4, it makes very little TQ at low rpms and that is what you need in a heavy vehicle. The other problem with this is that the two engine families share absolutely nothing in common so there will be a lot of fabrication and re-engineering.
Here's an incomplete list of some of the problems you will have to overcome.

1) You need a complete 5.0 specific EFI setup for this motor as nothing from the 5.4 will transfer.
2) The transmission bolt patterns are different so the 5.0 won't bolt up to the one that's in the truck now and it can't be modified to accept it.
3) You're also looking at custom engine mounts and exhaust because these motors were never offered in these trucks.
4) You'll need an OBD-2 PCM for a 5.0.
5) You'll need a transmission that is compatable with the above PCM.
6) And you are most likely looking at wiring harness modifications to make whatever 5.0 PCM you find work with the engine and transmission.
 
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