Notices
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Dentsides Ford Truck
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Moser

Upgrading A/C - Need help

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 11, 2010 | 04:11 PM
  #1  
stefanwlsn's Avatar
stefanwlsn
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Upgrading A/C - Need help

I am wanting to replace my stock A/C compressor with something a little more modern and efficient. I am looking at something like this:

Proliance Ready-Aire 2068N

Those of you who have done this before (Or those who just know how)... What else would be good to add? Receiver/dryer? New condensor? Both are probably a good idea, I just don't want to miss anything.
 
Reply
Old May 11, 2010 | 10:19 PM
  #2  
jsutton's Avatar
jsutton
Posting Guru
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,313
Likes: 12
From: Northeast LA
You'd need one more like this
Vintage Air 04808-VUA - Vintage Air Sanden Air Conditioning Compressors - Overview - SummitRacing.com
with an adapter bracket like this http://www.nostalgicairparts.com/air...-mount-516.php
to mount it on the factory York spot. You'll definitely have to get a new drier. And if you plan to go with R134a a parallel flow condenser would work a little better I think than the factory tube and fin one. Also you'd have to get the R134a charge ports for your hoses. Some people change the hoses completely to barrier type hose so the R134a can't "seep" through. Just my .02

Of course there are many other ways to go about putting A/C back on or in your truck this is just one way. I'm sure others will come along with some guidance too.
 
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2010 | 10:22 AM
  #3  
stefanwlsn's Avatar
stefanwlsn
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Any other info people can offer?
 
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2010 | 11:46 AM
  #4  
74f2502wd's Avatar
74f2502wd
Junior User
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
From: Sacramento
Definitely go with a Sanden compressor.
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2010 | 12:26 AM
  #5  
cougarmandan's Avatar
cougarmandan
Freshman User
20 Year Member
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Bonanza, Arkansas
You don't need barrier hoses with R-134a-that part is just a myth. You do need to make sure there are no leaks like your charge ports. I'll start my own thread on that later. Sanden brand compressor has been the gold standard for R134a compressors. Fords uses them and they are just better technology than the york style.
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2010 | 09:38 AM
  #6  
fair67driver's Avatar
fair67driver
Junior User
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
From: Kentucky
Originally Posted by cougarmandan
You don't need barrier hoses with R-134a-that part is just a myth. You do need to make sure there are no leaks like your charge ports. I'll start my own thread on that later. Sanden brand compressor has been the gold standard for R134a compressors. Fords uses them and they are just better technology than the york style.
Actually not a myth. If so, why then do the vehicle manufacturers use and train the use of barrier hoses? The R134a Molecules are smaller thatn the R-12 molecules. R134a will seep from the rubber non-barrier hoses. The length of time it will take to become empty is dependant on several factors.
Also, many times the oil in the different systems are not compatible. The mixed type of oils can make one heck of mess. I have been turning wrenches since the mid 90's and have seen the the results first hand many times of improper conversions. In the end they are either done proper or left non-functional......Let the debate begin.....\
I do prefer the sanden compressor hands down.
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2010 | 08:36 PM
  #7  
Riderman's Avatar
Riderman
Elder User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 668
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by fair67driver
Actually not a myth. functional......Let the debate begin.....\
.
I have to agree 100% with this post. I just finished my 30th AC job this month. You learn alot fixing peoples mistakes.
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2010 | 09:27 PM
  #8  
bamaf150's Avatar
bamaf150
Posting Guru
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,134
Likes: 1
From: Mississippi
Enlighten the ignorant; what are "barrier" hoses? Im going to have to get around to my a/c soon also.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jun 30, 2010 | 11:34 PM
  #9  
cougarmandan's Avatar
cougarmandan
Freshman User
20 Year Member
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Bonanza, Arkansas
A barrier hose is a special type of flexible hose that would replace the regular rubber hoses in the ac system. Its designed to prevent freon from escaping by permeating (seeping, soaking through, or however you want to invision it) through the rubber pores. They usually are made with special layer (ie barrier layer) and/or are made of special compounds to hold it in. Usually they are a little thicker than regular hoses.

I'm not tring to be a pain in the rear, but you don't need barrier hoses with R-134a. R-22 and some of the odd ball refrigerant do. (at one time I could have listed them all for you) Yes 134 is a smaller molecule, but its not small enough to get through. It definitely leaks easier, especially o-rings and charge ports. I heard it many times and read it over and over when I took the classes 15 years ago, back when I thought I wanted to be a mechanic. Mind you I haven't worked as a mechanic in 10 years. But even the EPA still states R22 and its blends are the only refrigerants requiring barrier hoses. Check it out.

Choosing and Using Alternative Refrigerants for Motor Vehicle Air Conditioning | Alternatives / SNAP | US EPA

Now with that being said, back to the original question. If you are putting in a new system or even just the hoses anyways, it doesn't cost that much to build it with barrier hoses. If you are just replacing the compressor, I wouldn't worry about it. Most of the leaking I have seen is the charging ports. I have converted several cars and R134a doesn't cool as well as R12, modern compressor or not. The best conversions I have done in the past were ones that replaced the condenser and expansion valves. Its hard, near impossible to get all the old oil out of the system, so be sure the oil you use is compatible with the mineral oil, and I like to flush hoses, evaporator, and condensor out individually if possible with lacquer thinner and lots of compressed air . Also, its usually standard to replace the receiver/dryer anytime you open the system. And lastly, its cheap so change out o-rings to the R-134a neoprene that seal better.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
JoeFin
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
18
Jan 4, 2024 02:51 AM
Cracker250
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
17
Jul 21, 2016 04:32 PM
Finmad
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
20
Jul 10, 2016 01:37 AM
FORDSDOWNER
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
43
Jun 5, 2011 04:52 PM
justindbell
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
7
Jun 22, 2010 03:31 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:47 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE