I am pretty sure this has been discussed already and I will see if I can send someone here on the board a picture so they can post it (any volenteers?) but I have a new calender that clearly shows a 54 F500 with 5lug buds being used with ten lug bud wheels. The front wheel hubs look factory so I dont think the axle has been swapped but cant say for sure. Any thoughts on this.

 

Yeah, we're gonna need pictures of them. You can PM me for my email address and I'll post the pics if you want.

The only 10 hole wheels that fit 5 lug hubs that I know of are Motor Wheel rims used on the old Chevies. They used all ten on the rear but only five with a stiffener plate on the front. Those were 10 lug x 7.25" bolt circle as opposed to our 5 lug x 8" circle. Plus they used 5/8" studs instead of our 3/4". Modern 10 hole rims would have either a 8.75" bolt circle, 11.25" circle, or a 13.1875 (13 3/16) circle. They could be custom rims I guess. Stu

 

the wheels are definatly not chevy wheels they have small lug nuts these are large lugs like the fords use. I will pm you tomorrow. I have to wait on my wife to scan the picture for me as I am borderline retarded

 

Nothing like a 'puter to make you feel that way. I'll see what I can do to help. Stu

 

I want see them too.

 

my 55 f350 had the front wheel spacer on it that used bolts to secure it to the drum / hub and that side of it was 8 bolt { had the same brakes as the 3/4 ton i think } and the wheel side of the spacer was 5 lug . so it wouldnt suprise me any .

 

Kevin - The Chassis Manual shows that "wheel spacer" is really the hub itself on the 53-56 F-350s. Like you said, 8 bolts holding the drum on at the back side, but it shows 6 lug x 7.25" circle on the wheel side.

As I'm understanding what F6Guy is seeing, it's a 10 lug wheel mounted to a 5 lug hub. All you see in the pic is the outside of the wheel which only has half the holes being used. Once I get his pics I'll put them on Photobucket and we can see what's what. Stu

 

ok I pm you my email address and scanned the picture just need someplace to send it. From the picture you cant see the rear wheels and the truck is a 55. any way if you have not received it let me know

 

PM sent with the email address. Stu

 

Well, here it is. I've edited the heck out this response so I'm sorry if I'm not being consistent. At first I thought they were absolutely Chevy, but after writing and looking at the pic better I'm convinced they are custom rims. They look to me to be 19.5s. They are clearly modern tubeless based on the rim's 15° lip profile. And if you look at the bolt circle, the five lug holes that are empty don't line up with the ones being used. And like F6Guy says, the lug nuts look to be our big Budd nuts on 3/4" studs as opposed to the Chevy's smaller hub piloted Motor Wheel Corporation design. The truck would have our 5 lug x 8" circle. The rims could have been made to fit a Chevy front that had 5 lug on a 7.25" bolt circle. The empty holes look like they could be for the Chevy's smaller studs. I might post this over on the Stovebolt.com site and see what Grigg Mullen thinks. He's their wheel guy. Stu

 

Is it possible they are off a F-superduty 10 lug with 5 holes opened up to fit?

 

I guess anything is possible when you start making custom rims. The Super Duty rims would be hub piloted so the machinist would have had to enlarge and reposition the lug holes then create the dish for the stock stud piloted lug nuts. Something else I noticed after doing the picture post, the rims have the more modern hand hole profile used today by Accuride. Old rims had more triangulated hand holes where the new ones are oval.

 

After sleeping on this I'm convinced that dbdbb has the right idea. Looking at the Accuride on-line catalog, their 10 lug x 7.25" circle Chevy/GMC light truck 19.5 looks exactly like these. The Chevy/GMC rims don't have the extra hole for the locator pin like the Ford rim has so my guess is these are either Accuride part numbers 27775 or 29667, depending on wheel offset. Somebody went to some work on them to get them to fit the F-500. Here's the link to the Accuride catalog: http://www.accuridewheels.com/lighttruckwheels.pdf

 

Here's Grigg's response to me:

My guess is same as yours.
They appear to be 19.5" Accuride GM 10 lug wheels in all details I can see in the pictures.
Who knows what he did to get them to fit, be it bore the holes out for larger studs, and or countersink them to make them stud piloted? Whatever he did I don't think it's a great idea, the centers are not very thick at the bolt holes, as part of the GM system they used clamp plates to spread the load farther away from the nuts.
The ford superduty wheels that use washer nuts have about twice the thickness at the bolt holes.. I'd be concerned that the wheels may crack or pull apart around the studs eventually.

Grigg
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And my reply back to him:

Thanks Grigg. Like you say, it'd have made more sense for him to go ahead and used the outer plate to give it more support. He could have even had plates made to disguise the extra bolt holes. If the guy was himself a machinist it wouldn't have cost him much but you'd think he'd have engineered it better. To have all that done, on top of the cost of the rims, doesn't seem logical. Take care. Stu