Just bought an 07 XLT, getting ice cold air from behind the dash on the drivers side. It's not blowing out anywhere but you can feel it. I could go on forever but I want. I'm going to start taking temp readings of the dash while I drive it. Drivers side dash is cold cold.. But todat it wasn't that noticable being 33 degrees out, the other day it was 0 out and I froze all the way to work and my feet were on fire..


anyways I have read about the 04 having problems with cold air behind the glovebox.. wonder if the duct work is the same???

Cause at the dealer it's normal....

 

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Just got back from the store... 35degrees out, after running it for a while I took my thermometer and checked the very top of the dash..On the pass side far right it was 90 degrees and just a few inches over the top of the glove box it was 60 degrees. My left leg was 90 and my right leg was 72 … pass side under the dash was 114 and on the drivers side it was 72…

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Plus you can feel a cold draft coming from the steering column where the release is for the tilt.
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That’s normal I guess….

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It really burns my *** is when they don’t take the time to diagnose the problem, that’s the one thing I was well-known for when I worked for Exxon as a tech… verify the complaint… people just don’t make this **** up… drive it …drive it everywhere you go until you can verify the complaint… I know when I worked at Subaru warranty would only pay ½ hour for diagnostic time and then what ever they paid for that particular part to be replaced… so I’m sure they drove it around the block and said “it’s fine nothing wrong with it”
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I asked the service writer if they pulled the dash apart to check the actuators or moving doors, he said they can’t verify the complaint so they can’t rip and tear… because someone has to do it for nothing… that’s the biggest problem, it might take 4 hour to find it but they only get .5 hour pay for it… so they take the .5 and tell you your basically crazy and there is nothing wrong…



here is some stuff I found

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Can anyone give me any hints as to what is going on? What could be the problem?<O</O<O</O


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wish i could help more Hemi. what i can tell you is that there are 3 or 4 vacuum cylinders under the dash that move doors to direct air to certian louvers. you can direct the air to the defrost, dash panels, floor, or combo. there is also an "outside" air door that is opened to let fresh air into the air box. --- now there is also a Max AC door at the bottom that when opens, it lets the cool air inside the cab bet sucked back into the coil and cool some more. thats better than getting hot outside air in the middle of july and trying to get it cold... what may be happening is the "max " door is not sealed so the air box is leaking air from the outside of the truck onto the floor of the cab. you might crawl under the dash and find the "max AC" suction vent on the floor and put duct tape over it.-- while driving, have one of the kids crawl under there and feel for the cool air at a vent by the passengers foot area, i think... what this all means is there are a couple of vacuum operated doors in the air duct that are not sealing properly.. if its under warrenty, show the dealer my note.

 

I had something similar on my '02. It was terrible for my passenger when we were driving through 5 below to get to the ski trip one winter.

It turned out the recirculate air door that swings back and forth to select fresh air or air from inside had simply fallen off inside my ventilation system, allowing a path straight from outside into the airbox below my passenger side dash. You could drop the blower motor/ fan and reach up in there and feel/ see it clunking around in the box, so I'm not sure why your dealership techs didn't think to do that. That part takes like 10 minutes...

Unfortunately there is no way to replace the door and connect it back to the vacuum motor properly without pulling the whole dash apart and cutting through a grate on the airbox to access it.

So that's what I did, and it took all of a Saturday afternoon to do. When it was apart it looked like the door could slide back and forth on it's hinge point too far, which is what caused it to slide out of place and fall down in the first place, so I threw a few washers in on the pivot point to shim it up. Been fine ever since, but was a pain to get the dash all apart and back together with no squeaks.

To pull the dash you have to take the center console apart and disconnect the steering column, pull the radio and climate control panel, pull all trim around the dash, disconnect a bunch of wiring harnesses, etc. Then there's a couple big bolts that hold the dash in. I pulled it all back only far enough to access the climate control unit and do the repair, I don't think I had to disconnect everything. It was a long time ago so I don't remember completely.

Sounds like this problem is more common than I thought.

 

thanks but I sold the 07....

 

Yeah, well, maybe somebody else would be having a similar problem and come across the thread... It's still dumb that they didn't drop your blower motor and look inside.